GLASSJAW Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I know CDC'ers love to moan about the over-sensitive nature of "sOciEtY" so what about this? The ADL (anti defamation league) has called out Minaj and co. for releasing a (seemingly) Nazi themed music video, right before Veteran's Day/Remembrance Day, and coinciding with the 76th anniversary of Kristallnacht, or the night the Holocaust began. ADL says, Nicki Minaj’s new video disturbingly evokes Third Reich propaganda and constitutes a new low for pop culture’s exploitation of Nazi symbolism. The irony should be lost on no one that this video debuted on the 76th anniversary of Kristallnacht, the “night of broken glass” pogrom that signaled the beginning of the Final Solution and the Holocaust. It is troubling that no one among Minaj’s group of producers, publicists and managers raised a red flag about the use of such imagery before ushering the video into public release. This video is insensitive to Holocaust survivors and a trivialization of the history of that era. The abuse of Nazi imagery is deeply disturbing and offensive to Jews and all those who can recall the sacrifices Americans and many others had to make as a result of Hitler’s Nazi juggernaut. http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/holocaust-nazis/adl-deeply-disturbed-by-nazi-imagery-in-nicki-minaj-video.html#.VGECuvTF-I0 The video can be seen here. Warning for sexually explicit lyrics and blah blah. Obviously this is an attempt to drum up controversy, but is it too far? Lots of fans seem to think so. And I certainly agree. Of course this is nothing new, as a number of punk bands used nazi imagery in their gimmick in the 80s, but much of that was used for ironic purposes and to represent cultural/political double standards. Nicki Minaj's video seems to be using the nazi theme entirely for an aesthetic purpose and for going viral--for which, here is my contribution. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 "Music" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Who else watched the video on mute? I should also note I didn't make it very far through just the video either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Nicki Minaj, Drake, Lil Wayne and Chris Brown. Hell on Earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The lyrics are just wrong on many ways. Some people call that "music"? A 2 year old can sing better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbro Baggins Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 So inspirational :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 "Music" ^ truth So inspirational :') lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Just saw some of the lyrics and determined that it's garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge-tailed Eagle Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FramingDragon Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Oh come on, there is no question this was made for shock just like Anaconda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GLASSJAW Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Oh come on, there is no question this was made for shock just like Anaconda. of course it was, i don't think anyone is really saying otherwise, or that she's ACTUALLY a nazi sympathizer or something. i think the question is how far should 'we' let someone go before pushing them into cultural obscurity, a la mel gibson? think about all the negative press Tarantino got from so many black figures/groups/scholars for Django, now imagine if he or a Jewish man were to make a video of self promotion that used KKK imagery? i imagine the backlash would be huge, and potentially really damaging so where does that leave minaj? does she get a pass just because she's kind of a shock musician TRYING to drum up controversy? is it okay because she's black and has been marginalized like jews were? or is it too much to release a nazi themed video on kristallnacht? (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 of course it was, i don't think anyone is really saying otherwise, or that she's ACTUALLY a nazi sympathizer or something. i think the question is how far should 'we' let someone go before pushing them into cultural obscurity, a la mel gibson? think about all the negative press Tarantino got from so many black figures/groups/scholars for Django, now imagine if he or a Jewish man were to make a video of self promotion that used KKK imagery? i imagine the backlash would be huge, and potentially really damaging so where does that leave minaj? does she get a pass just because she's kind of a shock musician TRYING to drum up controversy? is it okay because she's black and has been marginalized like jews were? or is it too much to release a nazi themed video on kristallnacht? (lol) She should have been pushed to cultural obscurity long before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I wouldn't mind the imagery if I felt like they were saying something with it, but if there's a message behind the concept it's lost on me. I actually like the backing beat/melody in the track. Someone should take it and put some real lyrics over top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Desired response achieved. I actually like the backing beat/melody in the track. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I wouldn't mind the imagery if I felt like they were saying something with it, but if there's a message behind the concept it's lost on me. I actually like the backing beat/melody in the track. Someone should take it and put some real lyrics over top. that's exactly it. the time of the release and the imagery is just too much for me. not shocking so much as it is just straight up insensitive for no reason other than self promotion and yeah, i think the music is fantastic, minus the vocals/lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbone909 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I've watched many tasteless videos over the years but this is in my top 3 for sure imagery and music total garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bookie Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 brought this to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I've watched many tasteless videos over the years but this is in my top 3 for sure imagery and music total garbage. Most if not all of her music is like that... I think she might get a pass on this one as Drake is Jewish and he probably wouldn't have collaborated had this been some hate video. This is just a shock vid for $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm more curious why you used proper capitalization in the original post, but not in any subsequent ones. On topic, who cares? I don't feel affected by this, positively or negatively. If not for this thread I wouldn't even know of any whiny controversy. Unless it becomes a trend, you're doing more harm moaning than leaving it well alone. /didn't even care to listen or watch, irrelevant unless you make it relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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