Ice T Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 To Buffalo: 2nd in 2015, 4th in 2015, 1st in 2016, 3rd in 2016, Higgins, Jensen, To Vancouver: Buffalo's 2015 1st round draft pick. I know if we make this trade, It goes down as history and no matter what, everyone accuses Vancouver of ripping Buffalo off. - Here's why i think Buffalo would accept this trade: Buffalo is clearly tanking for McDavid, even a an old person with no head could figure that out. But Buffalo already has 2 first round draft picks in 2015. So they already have a higher chance of getting the first overall pick than most teams with the picks they acquired from Islanders, St louis. Even though they drop a potential chance at locking up one of the best players in history, they gain 4 draft picks (a chance to pick another superstar), a top 6 - ish forward and a B level prospect. That is a great return IMHO. I Think Tim murray knows he has to make this deal or the fans would be sh***en bricks -Here's why we would do this trade: ITS A CHANCE IN A LIFETIME. If JB pulls the trigger on a deal similar to this, everyone on CDC would go bezerk! Currently, our top centre prospect is Horvat, who has the potential to become a Second line centre, but more likley a great 3rd line centre. Draft Scenario's Pick becomes 1st overall: McDavid Pick becomes Second overall: Eichel Pick becomes third overall: Kylington 2015-16 lineup SEDIN - SEDIN -VRBATA McDAVID - BONINO - SHINKARUK VIRTANEN- HORVAT - KASSIAN DORSETT - VEY - BURROWS Matthias, Richardson CnC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Buffalo won't trade their 1st overall pick for anything. It wont happen.. They aren't going for it anytime soon and McDavid is much more important to the franchise then any trade can offer. 2015 1st, 2016 1st, Bonino, Tanev, Horvat might not be enticing enough for them to pull a trigger. McDavid will revitalize seasons tickets, merchandise etc etc.. No other player can do for 1 team what McDavid can potentially do. Look what Sid did to Pittsburgh.... -------- Edit: It's funny how your title is "True #1 Centre" yet in the mock lineup you have him as a 2nd line Left Winger ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Buffalo won't trade their 1st overall pick for anything. It wont happen.. They aren't going for it anytime soon and McDavid is much more important to the franchise then any trade can offer. 2015 1st, 2016 1st, Bonino, Tanev, Horvat might not be enticing enough for them to pull a trigger. McDavid will revitalize seasons tickets, merchandise etc etc.. No other player can do for 1 team what McDavid can potentially do. Look what Sid did to Pittsburgh.... -------- Edit: It's funny how your title is "True #1 Centre" yet in the mock lineup you have him as a 2nd line Left Winger ?lol that edit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice T Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Buffalo won't trade their 1st overall pick for anything. It wont happen.. They aren't going for it anytime soon and McDavid is much more important to the franchise then any trade can offer. 2015 1st, 2016 1st, Bonino, Tanev, Horvat might not be enticing enough for them to pull a trigger. McDavid will revitalize seasons tickets, merchandise etc etc.. No other player can do for 1 team what McDavid can potentially do. Look what Sid did to Pittsburgh.... -------- Edit: It's funny how your title is "True #1 Centre" yet in the mock lineup you have him as a 2nd line Left Winger ? For the future, right now Henrik Sedin is our #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 To Buffalo: 2nd in 2015, 4th in 2015, 1st in 2016, 3rd in 2016, Higgins, Jensen, To Vancouver: Buffalo's 2015 1st round draft pick. I know if we make this trade, It goes down as history and no matter what, everyone accuses Vancouver of ripping Buffalo off. - Here's why i think Buffalo would accept this trade: Buffalo is clearly tanking for McDavid, even a an old person with no head could figure that out. But Buffalo already has 2 first round draft picks in 2015. So they already have a higher chance of getting the first overall pick than most teams with the picks they acquired from Islanders, St louis. Even though they drop a potential chance at locking up one of the best players in history, they gain 4 draft picks (a chance to pick another superstar), a top 6 - ish forward and a B level prospect. That is a great return IMHO. I Think Tim murray knows he has to make this deal or the fans would be sh***en bricks The fans and media here would run Murray out of town if he traded away the first or second pick. The reason why the Sabres haven't been getting booed like crazy this year is because people want McDavid/Eichel badly. It has been reported that Terry Pegula wants McDavid badly. He's one of the few owners that actively goes all around the country and scouts minor league and college players. Murray wouldn't be able to make the trade even if he wanted to. *edit* The Sabres have 3 2015 first round picks. Their own, the Islanders' pick, and the Blue's pick. There will be more 2015 picks incoming once the deadline trades begin. They also already have 2 second round picks. That's one of the reasons why I keep telling people that the Sabres are going to be one heck of a force in about 3 years. The prospect pool is the deepest in the league right now and it is going to be a whole lot deeper after this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The Canucks already have a #1 center... It's me! See you guys in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Buffalo won't trade their 1st overall pick for anything. It wont happen.. They aren't going for it anytime soon and McDavid is much more important to the franchise then any trade can offer. 2015 1st, 2016 1st, Bonino, Tanev, Horvat might not be enticing enough for them to pull a trigger. McDavid will revitalize seasons tickets, merchandise etc etc.. No other player can do for 1 team what McDavid can potentially do. Look what Sid did to Pittsburgh.... -------- Edit: It's funny how your title is "True #1 Centre" yet in the mock lineup you have him as a 2nd line Left Winger ? You're half right with the bolded sentence. Even after the worst season in the modern era last year, the Sabres sold a franchise record amount of season tickets. As to the merchandise, even though the expanded store at First Niagara Center does brisk business, I'd be willing to bet that the internet and off-site sales are lagging. That's just my guess though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You're half right with the bolded sentence. Even after the worst season in the modern era last year, the Sabres sold a franchise record amount of season tickets. As to the merchandise, even though the expanded store at First Niagara Center does brisk business, I'd be willing to bet that the internet and off-site sales are lagging. That's just my guess though.I'd say at least half of ticket sales for buffalo are Canadian hockey fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'd say at least half of ticket sales for buffalo are Canadian hockey fans. 20% actually. The other 80% is Western New York. People on CDC have to stop guessing about Buffalo. There are only a few here that actually have a clue about the organization. I usually don't say much when I read it, but you are so far off and aren't giving Buffalo enough credit for our own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have certain thoughts on this. A: You won't get the Sabres pick, like period short of Shinkaruk Hutton Next years first and one of our roster performers. B: Buffalo could and or will get a much better package than that if they dangle the pick at the draft lottery C: And this one is key for me: Everyone, even I am hyping this pick as being priceless as is, but at the end of the day this pick could still Kyle Beach, Cam Barker, Gilbert Brule his way into the league and just for whatever never put it together. Is that likely to happen? Who knows. But the bottom line is, it isn't in Vancouver's interest to literally sell the farm for a "chance" he might be as good as Crosby or bust as quick as Daigle 3 seasons later. So to sum up, A we cannot afford that pick. B: We shouldn't try to afford that risk, C: We don't have the luxury of making that gamble even if we could. OP we have multiple pieces that could be moved to help us move up in the draft or garner at the least an additional 2nd and or 1st round pick. Multiple picks in the first 2 rounds or acquiring a 3rd and more is fine by me at this stage as it seems to me that defensive studs are found regularly in deep drafts in the 2nd round and that is our need moving forward. If we can net another mid 20's pick and another pick in the top 12 plus at least an additional 2nd rounder I think as an organization we will FAR better served moving forward than if we subtract all of our hard earned prospect depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 20% actually. The other 80% is Western New York. People on CDC have to stop guessing about Buffalo. There are only a few here that actually have a clue about the organization. I usually don't say much when I read it, but you are so far off and aren't giving Buffalo enough credit for our own team. thats still a large amount. Not that i was really getting at anything. So try jot to take offense. Do you have a ratio of fans for last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 thats still a large amount. Not that i was really getting at anything. So try jot to take offense. Do you have a ratio of fans for last night? It is, but since Buffalo is a border town, 20% is to be expected. Don't forget that Canada is so close that during the winter, stupid people get drunk and occasionally take a short walk on the Lake Erie ice into Canada. Except for the ones that fall through and drown of course. Then it's a 50/50 shot on which shore they wash up on. Wild guess for last night? 60-65% Leafs fans, 35-40% Sabres fans. Unfortunately many Sabres season ticket holders sell the Toronto tickets out of their books in order to subsidize the cost. Leafs fans pay crazy ticket prices for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 That's some unrealistic somethin-somethin right there. Nice try guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 OMG LOL Post of the year. So realistic. Much Thoughtful. 10/10 hockey trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 BC bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Even if we offered: Our 1st rounder for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, our 2nd rounder this year, Gaunce, and Hansen and Jensen. Buffalo laughs and hangs up the phone. You are talking about a generational talent. There is no way in hell they are giving up 1st overall. Now if you're talking Stamkos, and Hedman and 2 first round picks. They might consider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 BC bud That must be some strong bud that BC is importing for anybody to even think that a McEichel trade will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 OMG LOL Post of the year. So realistic. Much Thoughtful. 10/10 hockey trade. Pretty much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 This is laughably bad. There should be a display message that comes up when somebody makes a (Proposal) topic saying: "Reminder: Quantity does not equal quality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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