Psycho_Path Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Or not... If that's not as reckless as Kassian's stick swinging... Or this. Gets just a fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8AaUvAzI3Q Watch from 0:40 onwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Rick Nash has pulled this shit off before. He gave someone a flying downwards elbow in the slot. He seems to be immune to suspension. Rick Nash WWF flying elbow on Tomas Kopecky Mar 2: Wasn't even looked at. Im fine if the suspensions are harsh. I perfectly it actually. They just need consistent. It seems as though the logo on tje front and the name on the back determine your suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Wasn't even looked at. Im fine if the suspensions are harsh. I perfectly it actually. They just need consistent. It seems as though the logo on tje front and the name on the back determine your suspension. I'm pretty certain it was looked at. DOPS ruled it wasn't a dangerous hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm pretty certain it was looked at. DOPS ruled it wasn't a dangerous hit.if thats the case its even worst. Rick nash continues on yet edler is a repeat offender. Thank you mike smith. Thank you DOPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Or not... [medi] If that's not as reckless as Kassian's stick swinging... It's definitely not comparable to what Kassian was suspended for. Kass was stupid and reckless with his stick and, like all players, must be accountable for his stick at all times. THAT was a deliberate cross check to the head. Not comparable at all. Nash's hit on Palat was way worse. Or this. Gets just a fine Watch from 0:40 onwards Yeah. That looks at least as bad as the hit Burrows was suspended 3 games for and it only gets a fine?! It seems these inconsistencies have not improved in the slightest with the new DoPS people. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Maybe the league doesn't want guys like Nash and Lucic suspended so they can be cast as repeat offenders in the future, But, they are not immune from suspension! Trade them to Vancouver and we will accept a suspension, if that will be the new standard, problem is we always hope it will be, but it never is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Rick Nash has pulled this crap off before. He gave someone a flying downwards elbow in the slot. He seems to be immune to suspension. Rick Nash WWF flying elbow on Tomas Kopecky Mar 2: Wasn't even looked at. Im fine if the suspensions are harsh. I perfectly it actually. They just need consistent. It seems as though the logo on tje front and the name on the back determine your suspension. It was looked at. Shanahan even declared it a "rotten hit." He still didn't suspend him for it though because they said there wasn't much head contact. Also said, "The commentators have too much of a fascination with did you leave his feet? We don't suspend for leaving your feet. We suspend for leaving your feet and hitting a guy in the head violently." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 if thats the case its even worst. Rick nash continues on yet edler is a repeat offender. Thank you mike smith. Thank you DOPS I seem to recall DOPS saying it was acceptable because Nash at least partially caught him in the name plate. Never mind Kopecky was in a vulnerable position or that Nash launched himself like a missile. Yeah Poetica's post above got the details right. Nice work digging that up Poetica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 It was looked at. Shanahan even declared it a "rotten hit." He still didn't suspend him for it though because they said there wasn't must head contact. Also said, The commentators have too much of a fascination with did you leave his feet? We dont suspend for leaving your feet. We suspend for leaving your feet and hitting a guy in the head violently. im not sure what point your trying to get across here. The hit was late, high, and he left his feet. Rick nash is a tall guy. What's the point of leaving his feet to hit something lower? He was going for a headshot. Nonetheless good research pulling that up. I guess i just dont agree with the nhls suspension standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This is the type of situation the NHLPA should be getting involved in. Not sure if they realize it but their job isn't just to protect the top 5% of NHLers interests. The league and that union are a total joke sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 im not sure what point your trying to get across here. The hit was late, high, and he left his feet. Rick nash is a tall guy. What's the point of leaving his feet to hit something lower? He was going for a headshot. Nonetheless good research pulling that up. I guess i just dont agree with the nhls suspension standards. Sorry it wasn't clear enough. (Maybe because of the "must/much" typo?) I was agreeing with you. They looked at the hit, but seemed to only be looking for justifications for the non-action call they'd already made. Slap a Canucks jersey on him though and that exact hit would have gotten 3 games. And how many times did Shanahan use leaving the feet prior to a hit as justification only then to say it was only relevant if you also violently hit someone in the head? Commentators are obsessed with that standard because the NHL themselves said it was one...until they didn't want it to be anymore. Personally, I think you're being generous calling them standards at all. They'd have to be more consistent to deserve that word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 This is the type of situation the NHLPA should be getting involved in. Not sure if they realize it but their job isn't just to protect the top 5% of NHLers interests. The league and that union are a total joke sometimes. Sometimes? Officiating is crap all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Going back to OP, I really don't think Scandella's hit deserves to be lumped with Nash's antics. Oshie was moving pretty shiftily and his speed and direction were hard to predict. That's what he's good at, but he stopped up and Scandella had lined him up and that's what happened. Nash is just a dumbass though. Crosschecking a guy in the chin should be a suspension, one of 2 or 3 Nash should have accumulated by now. O6 status makes him exempt though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Two different hits, and certainly the Nash one doesn't have a lot or comparables. Nash is avoiding a hit rather than delivering one so it's harder to say the DoPS is inconsistent with suspensions when we don't see that often where the person being hit becomes the aggressor. Maybe where we see the blowback hits, like when Dustin Brown got caught for elbowing Pominville as Pominville was coming in from behind to hit Brown, but I can't think of other examples off the top of my head. Nash is reckless though - deliberate is pretty tough to say with 100% certainty - and I don't like it at all (just as I didn't like his other hit already mentioned with the elbows in the back and head). The Scandella hit is weird because they're almost standing still. I think Oshie was injured (correct me if I'm wrong I might be thinking of his previous head injury) so thought it might have gotten a game or two. Lots to pick on using the illegal contact to the head rule though, so that I can see as inconsistent even if it's a bit of a weird case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It seems as though the logo on tje front and the name on the back determine your suspension. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with this. No other reason for all this inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Going back to OP, I really don't think Scandella's hit deserves to be lumped with Nash's antics. Oshie was moving pretty shiftily and his speed and direction were hard to predict. That's what he's good at, but he stopped up and Scandella had lined him up and that's what happened. Nash is just a dumbass though. Crosschecking a guy in the chin should be a suspension, one of 2 or 3 Nash should have accumulated by now. O6 status makes him exempt though. I'm not saying they're the same type of hit, I'm saying there's other hits that have happened with similar results that resulted in suspensions, yet these ones don't? I agree that there isn't really precedence set, but there wasn't for Kassian's wild swing of his stick that struck Gagner? in the face. Nash's was more deliberate if you ask me. As for Scandella's, the principal point of contact was the head, and he made a direction upward into the head with his shoulder. How is that not suspendable based on all other head hit suspensions the DOPS has handed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Welp, now we can add Robidas' elbow to Matthias' head to this... GJ DOPS... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p0joGAyeRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Misleading title, I thought they did good this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well they are consistent with not giving players any supplementary discipline for hitting Matthias to the head https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXpeZ_7ffGo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well they are consistent with not giving players any supplementary discipline for hitting Matthias to the head zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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