Santo Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The recent scrum in Ottawa got me thinking... These stats compare the two players at the same point in their career. This comparison is primarly between the players on a production and contribution level, not on a personal level. (We all know Neil has no class) Of particular note: -Neil has almost always had better linemates -Dorsett is on pace for 28 points this season -Neil (6'1, 215) and Dorsett (6'0, 192) are nearly the same size -Dorsett's career PPG is .23, while Neil's is .27 -Dorsett's career PIM is 2.58 per game, while Neil's is 2.48 per game Is Derek Dorsett our version of Chris Neil? Re-sign next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Derek has more integrity than Neil after what I saw last night.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Honestly I love Dorsett and all the things he brings to the team. But isn't his cap hit slightly too high? Edit : I mean I want to keep him for sure and re sign. But maybe at 1 mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Honestly I love Dorsett and all the things he brings to the team. But isn't his cap hit slightly too high? Edit : I mean I want to keep him for sure and re sign. But maybe at 1 mill? Dorsett's doing exactly what he's been asked for, No complaining here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgson!! Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Woah, never thought of this. Now that I think about it, they're extremely similar players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanrikCarter Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Chris Neil is Ottawa's Derek Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgson!! Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Honestly I love Dorsett and all the things he brings to the team. But isn't his cap hit slightly too high? Edit : I mean I want to keep him for sure and re sign. But maybe at 1 mill? If he can get the 28 points, I wouldn't mind his contract. He's playing on the 4th line and getting close to 30 points, hitting, bringing energy, fighting and bringing leadership. That's a perfect 4th liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Edit: this is the character guy Dorsett ishttp://youtu.be/eCciMuXZSDc Dorsett is a heart and soul player, plays a physical game but an honest one at that. Neil is a scum and a dirtbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadcanucks Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The recent scrum in Ottawa got me thinking... These stats compare the two players at the same point in their career. Of particular note: -Neil has almost always had better linemates -Dorsett is on pace for 28 points this season -Neil (6'1, 185) and Dorsett (6'0, 192) are nearly the same size -Dorsett's career PPG is .23, while Neil's is .27 -Dorsett's career PIM is 2.58 per game, while Neil's is 2.48 per game Is Derek Dorsett our version of Chris Neil? Re-sign next season? You might want to re-visit Neil's vital stats...6'1" 215 lbs. (source: The Hockey News). Loved Dorsett's comments about Neil and his antics from yesterday's game. Dorsett, IMO isn't going anywhere. He's a JB trade acquisition, and will most likely be signed sooner than later. Would rather have Dorsett than Neil, especially in today's NHL where speed is such a valuable asset to have. I'm a big fan of the tough middleweights like Dorsett. Dorsett reminds me of Rick Rypien...probably why I like Dorsett as a Canuck so much. He's got Rypper's spirit in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The Canucks needed Chris Neil and what he brought to the table back in 2011. Dorsett is a better fit right now for where this team is at. I like how he skates, how he forechecks, and how he uses his teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Dorsett's doing exactly what he's been asked for, No complaining here... Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Honestly I love Dorsett and all the things he brings to the team. But isn't his cap hit slightly too high? Edit : I mean I want to keep him for sure and re sign. But maybe at 1 mill? I remember people complaining about letting go of Torres (I was one of them). For what he brings, I'd be happy with $2 million dollars. $1 million is less than/similar to what some of the rookies would make after (attainable) bonuses. I sure hope JB doesn't lowball Dorsette to $1 million dollar offer like MG did to Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Chris Neil's a punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Honestly I love Dorsett and all the things he brings to the team. But isn't his cap hit slightly too high? Edit : I mean I want to keep him for sure and re sign. But maybe at 1 mill? He'll get more than that on the open market for what he brings. I agree that Benning will try to extend him well before then, and at fair market value. Both he and Linden (before he even hired Benning) wanted him, and not just as a one-year rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 dorsett's more humble, coming from his days in columbus. he's a guy who's come in and does his job. neil's good at what he does, but he just comes off as a smug piece of garbage who's constantly showing no sportsmanship. it's real hard to respect chris neil, the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Why did Dorsett only play 51 games on the Rangers last year? Was it injuries or healthy scratches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I always thought that Kassian could be our Neil. I know most people think it's Bertuzzi or bust but if Kassian can fight, hit, play 2 ways and pot 15/20 I'd be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Dorsett is a better player than Neil IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Kassian with that effort he can't be a fourth lune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Kassian with that effort he can't be a fourth lune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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