ken kaniff Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Vancouver: RW Zack Kassian, D Luca Sbisa New Jersey: D Adam Larsson, NJD 3rd '15 -New Jersey has no young RW's. Kassian gives them a young RW under 30. Sbisa gives them size on the back end and a replacement for Larsson. -Vancouver gets a young blue chip defenseman that needs a change of scenery. Vancouver: G Jacob Markstrom, (+?) Arizona: D Brandon Gormley -Arizona gets a stellar young goaltender. Smith is getting old and not performing well, and they have no notable young goaltenders. Visentin hasn't excelled. This gives them a potential starter. -Vancouver gets a young puck moving defenseman that hasnt been able to crack Arizona's lineup and is rumored to be on the block. Daniel Sedin-Henrik Sedin-Radim Vrbata Chris Higgins-Nick Bonino-Linden Vey Shawn Matthias-Brad Richardson-Alex Burrows Derek Dorsett-Bo Horvat-Jannik Hansen Tom Sestito Dan Hamhuis-Adam Larsson Alex Edler-Chris Tanev Brandon Gormley-Kevin Bieksa Ryan Stanton Yannick Weber Ryan Miller Eddie Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Not going to lie, I really do not like the idea of getting Larsson at that cost. He hasn't shown on a consistent basis that he even deserves to be in the NHL since his rookie season. He has not been trending in the right direction at all. That being said, that is probably what it would take to get him. As for the Arizona trade, I don't know if they are really in need of a goalie prospect at the cost of Gormley, who they could probably dangle for a solid forward. Visentin is just as good of prospect as Markstrom, if not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Larsson hasn't lived up to expectations but he hasn't been that bad. He's young, he makes mistakes but he hasn't been awful. Kassian is overrated by CDC and we don't need him. And Visentin as good as Markstrom? In what world? He's been below average since joining the AHL. He's young yes but Markstrom is much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Larsson hasn't lived up to expectations but he hasn't been that bad. He's young, he makes mistakes but he hasn't been awful. Kassian is overrated by CDC and we don't need him. And Visentin as good as Markstrom? In what world? He's been below average since joining the AHL. He's young yes but Markstrom is much better The term overrated is grossly over-used and mis-used on CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 In this case its justified. CDC thinks Kassian is untouchable and just a step away from being perfect. Just mentioning trading Kassian means I'm a troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Swap Sbisa with Weber and then we'll talk. Not bad proposal though, all in all, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Both deals are possible, but I like the Gormley one a lot more. We'd have to add something, as you've indicated, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSecretIsMe Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I've been curious to know whether Kovalchuk is eligble to play in the NHL this season, he did mention he'd be back before he left to the KHL. If so I wonder if JB can make it happen. Imagine that addition to our top 6 haha :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Larsson hasn't lived up to expectations but he hasn't been that bad. He's young, he makes mistakes but he hasn't been awful. Kassian is overrated by CDC and we don't need him. And Visentin as good as Markstrom? In what world? He's been below average since joining the AHL. He's young yes but Markstrom is much better I think Larsson is really no more likely to break out than Kass is at this point. I'd swap them one-for-one, but NJ wouldn't. Adding Sbisa just seems like too much to add on after that. Sbisa has been solid for us and remember he is only 24 as well. As it stands right now, Sbisa is just as good of defenceman in the NHL than Larsson is, and maybe even better. Basically what it comes down to is that I just don't believe that Larsson will really ever come to reach his full potential. Visentin had a respectable rookie season in the AHL, but last year Portland was one of the worst teams in the league and Vistentin was hung out to dry. He hasn't been as good as many hoped, but he should still have a solid career in front of him. Markstrom has proven he is a good AHL goalie, but time and time again he has been subpar in the NHL, and I think he needs to show that he can finally get over that hump before he can be regarded as a valuable commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Actually not a bad idea, however, losing Sbisa too I feel would be too devastating. 1, because are defense already needs as much help as it can get. If we are serious about the playoffs, we can't lose Sbisa, especially without Hamhuis. But I would be willing to do it for someone like Weber. Larsson can have a similar impact to what Weber has had this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I've been curious to know whether Kovalchuk is eligble to play in the NHL this season, he did mention he'd be back before he left to the KHL. If so I wonder if JB can make it happen. Imagine that addition to our top 6 haha :D The only way Kovalchuk can come back is when he's 35 cause of his huge contract and it can only be with the Devils. So it's impossible for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 The term overrated is grossly over-used and mis-used on CDC. Actually it's not. This proposal is very realistic. In my opinion you're one of the worst homers on here with trade proposals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Lack for Gormely is probably more realistic. Markstrom cleared waivers earlier this season. If they really wanted him they could have had him for free or at least at the cost of waiving say Chipchura.... Gormely is a solid prospect Hockeys Future has him ranked at 11 for defenders and 35th overall. He isn't going to be traded willy nilly would sure love to grab him though he's exactly the type of player we should be targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Actually it's not. This proposal is very realistic. In my opinion you're one of the worst homers on here with trade proposals. Then give me one good reason why it makes sense for to trade Kassian. We won't trade him unless Benning is blown away with an offer and Larsson isn't that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Neither Gormley and Larsson has shown they deserve a spot in the Canucks lineup over Weber or Stanton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Neither Gormley and Larsson has shown they deserve a spot in the Canucks lineup over Weber or Stanton. I'd put my right nut on the right side rather than Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I'd put my right nut on the right side rather than Weber. You're a weirdo then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Then give me one good reason why it makes sense for to trade Kassian. We won't trade him unless Benning is blown away with an offer and Larsson isn't that. I never said I would make the trade however this proposal is realistic in value sense. As for Kassian, the op is right he is way over rated on cdc. I really like Kassian and I can even admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sestito Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 You're a weirdo then. Obviously you haven't seen Weber defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 ^^ Or maybe you have a nut that can get the job done? A leg up on Salo anyway... Not very good eh. In all seriousness that D looks way better! Not everyone would like the Larsson deal. I would consider it and think it is what it would cost. I do like Kass so I wish there was an alternative. I do not think that is either the right player, or the right value to get Gormley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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