granpappy Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 how about we get johannsen from columbus for our 1st next year +?. columbus knows ryan will not stay after a few more years. vancouver knows he wants to play here. columbus might believe we will fall in the standings now that we will begin to face some tougher opponents, ie: not many oiler games left. columbus would have a low percentage crack at # 1/2/3 overall next year and a good chance at a decent pick in a deep draft. we would have a blue chip player. we will not win any cups this year. we could then ship out vets to contenders for picks next year and load up with young talent. one could only wish . . . sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Just cause they we born here doesn't mean they want to play here sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Just cause they we born here doesn't mean they want to play here sigh Tell that to Virtanen jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papagrizz Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 boo u suck leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Asking price would be young NHL ready center, dman, 2 blue chip prospects and a 1st and maybe even more. His value couldn't really be higher right now. He's got a real nice contract too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Asking price would be young NHL ready center, dman, 2 blue chip prospects and a 1st and maybe even more. His value couldn't really be higher right now. He's got a real nice contract too. We'd essentially have to gut our depth for Johansen. Think something like Bonino, Horvat, Shinkaruk/Jensen/Virtanen, 1st. Really wouldn't be worth it IMO unless he carries us to the promised land multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 CDC always has this thing where everyone is obsessed with a certain player for a period of time. Previous ones were Parise, Nash, Perry, Weber, Kane, Nichushkin. The newest one is Johansen. I wonder who the next one will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 1. Canucks wouldn't be able to fit Johanssen under their salary cap without shedding some salary, so giving up just the 1st rounder doesn't work. 2. Canucks have more forwards than they can play, so giving up just a pick would leave them needing to waive a forward. 3. Columbus invested a 4th overall pick on Johanssen and it worked out well-they've got a good, big 1st line center who could star for them for years. What do they gain from giving him up for a lower 1st round pick? 4. Just about any team would be prepared to pay more than a mid or low 1st round pick for Johanssen so this wouldn't be the best bid Columbus would receive. All of this leads to-Canucks would need to trade more than just the 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granpappy Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 1. Canucks wouldn't be able to fit Johanssen under their salary cap without shedding some salary, so giving up just the 1st rounder doesn't work. 2. Canucks have more forwards than they can play, so giving up just a pick would leave them needing to waive a forward. 3. Columbus invested a 4th overall pick on Johanssen and it worked out well-they've got a good, big 1st line center who could star for them for years. What do they gain from giving him up for a lower 1st round pick? 4. Just about any team would be prepared to pay more than a mid or low 1st round pick for Johanssen so this wouldn't be the best bid Columbus would receive. All of this leads to-Canucks would need to trade more than just the 1st round pick. the johanssen contract negotiations this past summer were pretty indicative that he wasn't happy in columbus and that he likely will sign elsewhere once he becomes unrestricted. it's sort of a tanking by-proxy, that is, if columbus were to give up their best player, they would have a legitimate shot at a 1 or 2 pick next draft. a really good chance. along with that chance they would take a chance on getting a good mid-range pick from vancouver. as far as fitting under the cap, fair enough. a little tweaking to get the deal done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 If we wanted Johansen, it clearly would have made more sense during his contract negotiations of the off-season. With that said, it would likely take us a package of Bonino, Virtanen and a second round draft pick. With Bonino playing so well, it doesn't make sense for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_74 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 CDC always has this thing where everyone is obsessed with a certain player for a period of time. Previous ones were Parise, Nash, Perry, Weber, Kane, Nichushkin. The newest one is Johansen. I wonder who the next one will be? You must have forgotten Myers haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 They'd probably want a current top-6 center, very good prospect and then a 1st. Something like Bonino, Jensen and a 1st. I'd probably do that if they would, but only if the 1st is for 2016 (maybe do the trade next season). Then this is our new future: Shinkaruk - Johansen - Virtanen UFA winger - Horvat - Kassian Sedin - Sedin - Matthias Edler - Tanev 2015 draft 1st rounder/UFA - Subban Sbisa - Corrado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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