luongomyhero1 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Taylor hall has a ton of potential but being in edm is just sucking the life out of him. For the sake of his career i think he'd rather move to another team. Obviously the Nucks would have to pay a PREMIUM considering he is also in the same position. I feel as though Tanev or Edler or Bieksa would have to be in the deal (id like to keep Hammer) along wiht a A-level prospect, a 1st, and probably a 2nd next year. However, Bieksa and Edler most liely would never waive to go to EDM... Thus Tanev becomes the biggest defensive traDE CHIP. EDM fans on CDC are going to hate this proposal because he is not a household name but he's been one of our best defensive D-men the past two years and hes young and has great hockey sense. Proposal: (wont have to deal with NTC) VAN: Tanev, Kassian, Matthias, Markstrom/Lack,2015 1st, 2016 2nd EDM: Hall, Marincin Sedin-Sedin-Hall Higgins-Bonino-Vrbata Burrows-Richardson-Vey Dorsett-Horvat-Hansen Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Sbisa Stanton-Marincin/Weber/Corrado *** I'd like for Van to get a vet D-man also in a separate trade (Zidlicky, Weaver, Gleason, Volchenkov?) note all lhave expiring contracts, so deadline deal rentals. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Taylor hall has a ton of potential but being in edm is just sucking the life out of him. For the sake of his career i think he'd rather move to another team. Obviously the Nucks would have to pay a PREMIUM considering he is also in the same position. I feel as though Tanev or Edler or Bieksa would have to be in the deal (id like to keep Hammer) along wiht a A-level prospect, a 1st, and probably a 2nd next year. However, Bieksa and Edler most liely would never waive to go to EDM... Thus Tanev becomes the biggest defensive traDE CHIP. EDM fans on CDC are going to hate this proposal because he is not a household name but he's been one of our best defensive D-men the past two years and hes young and has great hockey sense. Proposal: (wont have to deal with NTC) VAN: Tanev, Kassian, Matthias, Markstrom/Lack,2015 1st, 2016 2nd EDM: Hall, Marincin Sedin-Sedin-Hall Higgins-Bonino-Vrbata Burrows-Richardson-Vey Dorsett-Horvat-Hansen Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Sbisa Stanton-Marincin/Weber/Corrado *** I'd like for Van to get a vet D-man also in a separate trade (Zidlicky, Weaver, Gleason, Volchenkov?) note all lhave expiring contracts, so deadline deal rentals. Thoughts?how many games have you watched this season approx.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's Taylor Hall, their best player, EDM hangs up if you don't start the negociation with at least Tanev+Horvat or Virtanen+1st 2015....and thats just the starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luongomyhero1 Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 It's Taylor Hall, their best player, EDM hangs up if you don't start the negociation with at least Tanev+Horvat or Virtanen+1st 2015....and thats just the starting point. he's rumored to be on the block actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 he's rumored to be on the block actually Did I say somewhere he couldn't be traded? All I said is he's there best player and the return would have to be huge for them to trade him. and you're proposal of tanev + bunch crap won't cut it (ok i'm harsh on Kassian and Markstrom/Lack, but they don't have much value on the market, even Tanev's value is probably lower than what he atually brings us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler+Horvat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 See what Seguin returned? Top players OTB don't return as much as they should. Shinkaruk 1st 2015 Sbisa Lack Is my offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 WOW op .. Overpay much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 At this time in the season, this trade is not worth the time, effort an players that have to be bundled up in package let alone the huge negative dissruption this would have on the current performance of the team. I would continue medium to long aproach with player development an stay the course .We need a top flight alround D man in worst way this is what I would be focusing on developing an patching up our D on a continueal basis until it has reliability an stability back there.I like Taylor but he is not our answer no matter what the deal may entail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 See what Seguin returned? Top players OTB don't return as much as they should. Shinkaruk 1st 2015 Sbisa Lack Is my offer Totally different situations. In Boston Seguin was being used as a role player, hadn't broken out yet, and rubbed the management wrong. Even with all that most people felt like Boston got fleeced. Hall is playing top line minutes in Edmonton and is generally considered their best player. No way your crappy offer even gets them talking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 CDC Proposal Rule #1: Quantity = quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Why don't we give our whole team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 my offer would be Hammer shinkaruk Lack 1st 2016 Hall 3rd 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yakupov will be the first one traded (significant one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 We would have to trade Virtanen for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Taylor hall has a ton of potential but being in edm is just sucking the life out of him. For the sake of his career i think he'd rather move to another team. Obviously the Nucks would have to pay a PREMIUM considering he is also in the same position. I feel as though Tanev or Edler or Bieksa would have to be in the deal (id like to keep Hammer) along wiht a A-level prospect, a 1st, and probably a 2nd next year. However, Bieksa and Edler most liely would never waive to go to EDM... Thus Tanev becomes the biggest defensive traDE CHIP. EDM fans on CDC are going to hate this proposal because he is not a household name but he's been one of our best defensive D-men the past two years and hes young and has great hockey sense. Proposal: (wont have to deal with NTC) VAN: Tanev, Kassian, Matthias, Markstrom/Lack,2015 1st, 2016 2nd EDM: Hall, Marincin Sedin-Sedin-Hall Higgins-Bonino-Vrbata Burrows-Richardson-Vey Dorsett-Horvat-Hansen Hamhuis-Bieksa Edler-Sbisa Stanton-Marincin/Weber/Corrado *** I'd like for Van to get a vet D-man also in a separate trade (Zidlicky, Weaver, Gleason, Volchenkov?) note all lhave expiring contracts, so deadline deal rentals. Thoughts? I would rather have all those players/assets than Taylor Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 he's rumored to be on the block actually source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALGARY! Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I would think Edmonton would be looking for Defense, Defensive forwards, and veterans to scatter into their lineup for leadership reasons. They are likely already picking very high in this years draft, and don't have a spectacular record of picking beyond top 10 in the past few years. If Vancouver were looking to aquire him, I think Tanev, Bonino + a bottom six forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Going all in for a kid with a bad attitude would be a poor decision. I have no doubt Hall wants out, although he will never admit it, he must be depressed losing in E-town. Five coaches in as many years. It's the gong show of the NHL. All that being said, depleting our own team to accommodate a potential star forward is not the way smart organizations develop their on ice product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm not sure what the original poster means in saying Canucks would have to pay a premium, but to me paying a premium means paying more than normal value or more than someone else would pay. Why make a trade when the starting point is that you have to overpay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I would gladly take that deal. Star young power forwards are rare. Tanev's, Kassians, Lacks are replaceable fairly easily. Although in a hockey sense I see why you made this proposal, their team gets more well rounded and adds a bunch of young pieces, but if MacT trades Taylor Hall right now without getting a top player or prospect in return (Tanev doesn't qualify) then he will be burned at the stake. Especially if he trades in division. It would take an outrageous package of lessers to get Hall. Like Tanev, Virtanen, Kassian, Lack and a first. Not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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