nuck nit Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You mean the same guy that traded an NHL top 4 defensemen for a 2nd but traded a 3rd for an ahl/echl defensemen?Is that the same guy with the cup ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Claude Julian criticizes Milan Lucic. RALEIGH, N.C. — Bruins coach Claude Julien yesterday was candid in his criticism of top winger Milan Lucic, who has just six goals in 39 games and, with 62 shots on goal, is averaging only 1.6 per game. He had three shots during yesterday’s 2-1 shootout loss to the Hurricanes. “We know what kind of player he is,” Julien said. “We’d like to see a lot more than what he’s done. He’s a heavy player, and everybody talks about his hitting. Yeah, that’s one part of his game. “But he’s also a guy, with his size and strength, he can go to the net hard and get his nose dirty in those areas, and maybe that increased his goal production. But in certain games you see him with maybe one shot. “He’s playing some important minutes on pretty good lines, so obviously we need more from him. He’s got to be capable of bringing more than (the) one shot he had in (Saturday’s game vs. Ottawa).” http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2015/01/bruins_notebook_claude_julien_criticizes_milan_lucic_s_play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Claude Julian criticizes Milan Lucic. RALEIGH, N.C. Bruins coach Claude Julien yesterday was candid in his criticism of top winger Milan Lucic, who has just six goals in 39 games and, with 62 shots on goal, is averaging only 1.6 per game. He had three shots during yesterdays 2-1 shootout loss to the Hurricanes.We know what kind of player he is, Julien said. Wed like to see a lot more than what hes done. Hes a heavy player, and everybody talks about his hitting. Yeah, thats one part of his game.But hes also a guy, with his size and strength, he can go to the net hard and get his nose dirty in those areas, and maybe that increased his goal production. But in certain games you see him with maybe one shot.Hes playing some important minutes on pretty good lines, so obviously we need more from him. Hes got to be capable of bringing more than (the) one shot he had in (Saturdays game vs. Ottawa). http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2015/01/bruins_notebook_claude_julien_criticizes_milan_lucic_s_play He may get traded, but it won't be here. He is a King or Blackhawk type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Claude Julian criticizes Milan Lucic. RALEIGH, N.C. Bruins coach Claude Julien yesterday was candid in his criticism of top winger Milan Lucic, who has just six goals in 39 games and, with 62 shots on goal, is averaging only 1.6 per game. He had three shots during yesterdays 2-1 shootout loss to the Hurricanes.We know what kind of player he is, Julien said. Wed like to see a lot more than what hes done. Hes a heavy player, and everybody talks about his hitting. Yeah, thats one part of his game.But hes also a guy, with his size and strength, he can go to the net hard and get his nose dirty in those areas, and maybe that increased his goal production. But in certain games you see him with maybe one shot.Hes playing some important minutes on pretty good lines, so obviously we need more from him. Hes got to be capable of bringing more than (the) one shot he had in (Saturdays game vs. Ottawa). http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2015/01/bruins_notebook_claude_julien_criticizes_milan_lucic_s_play Yes please to Lucic. Everybody's dream was that Kassian might turn Lucic. A trade home would probably recharge Lucic. Bruins are in a really tough spot with the cap after this with a lot of key RFA's to sign. Might be a good time for Chiarelli to throw Benning a bone. Kassian, Higgins, late pick For Lucic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I remember hearing that the Oilers covet Lucic greatly. Perhaps he could be the centerpiece of a Hall/Eberle deal. Then again, who in their right mind waives for Edmonton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Is that the same guy with the cup ring? The same guy who's reasoning for wanting to trade seguin is "we're not babysitting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 And yet another Ryan Strome post going after Warhippy for no apparent reason. Hot damn is that what all that's about? This guy sure is stiff for me I tell ya. I blocked him ages ago so I can't really see anything he posts but he sure likes to follow me around threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yes please to Lucic. Everybody's dream was that Kassian might turn Lucic. A trade home would probably recharge Lucic. Bruins are in a really tough spot with the cap after this with a lot of key RFA's to sign. Might be a good time for Chiarelli to throw Benning a bone. Kassian, Higgins, late pick For Lucic Cap. Cap cap cap cappity cap cap There's so many reason to not want Lucic and that is the most essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The same guy who's reasoning for wanting to trade seguin is "we're not babysitting". That's a legitimate reason when deciding which one of your forwards you have to move for cap space. First you decide who to move and balance that out for a return that keeps you competitive. That's what they're paid to do. It was a tough call but the right one for them in that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Might be the return will be higher than his value. Might be the inconsistencies or lack of professionalism he is tainted with. Might be that he has so much potential and refuses to or can't bring it consistently. Might be that his personal issues are getting in the way of his bringing it. Might only be negative perceptions ,coupled with a lackadaisical attitude, that upsets fans. you should go take a dump in his hockey helmet..that would be the coup de gras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's a legitimate reason when deciding which one of your forwards you have to move for cap space. First you decide who to move and balance that out for a return that keeps you competitive. That's what they're paid to do. It was a tough call but the right one for them in that time frame. No, clearly it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Red Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Might be the return will be higher than his value.Might be the inconsistencies or lack of professionalism he is tainted with.Might be that he has so much potential and refuses to or can't bring it consistently.Might be that his personal issues are getting in the way of his bringing it.Might only be negative perceptions ,coupled with a lackadaisical attitude, that upsets fans.Please start a thread named "Kassian.... Do we really need him?"Get it over with already. Then you will forever be enshrined in the CDC wall of ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Please start a thread named "Kassian.... Do we really need him?" Get it over with already. Then you will forever be enshrined in the CDC wall of ? Yeah, just like the anti-Virtanen, Nylander/Ehlers-loving butt-hurts in Prospects, should just give them their own thread where they can get their Kass-hate on in private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 No, clearly it wasn't. Clearly, you judge it too soon. Seguin is only starting to play defense and still can't take a draw well. He hasn't won anything as a Star yet. Morrow may wind up being a #1 d-man. They could very well go on a deep run again this year. You old say they should have traded player X instead but there are too many variables there to make a valid argument. If they win a Cup this year or next how could you still say that? The deal was made for the franchise, in context, and a slow half season doesn't negate their organizational strength even for a slight downturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's a legitimate reason when deciding which one of your forwards you have to move for cap space. First you decide who to move and balance that out for a return that keeps you competitive. That's what they're paid to do. It was a tough call but the right one for them in that time frame. Thanks for the laugh. I bet that's what Bruins fans tell themselves to keep from crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Thanks for the laugh. I bet that's what Bruins fans tell themselves to keep from crying.What I'm saying shouldn't be particularly controversial. When judging the trade 5-7 years from now, because the Bruins knew they were taking a mitigated risk to replace current bodies, get more cap space, and get more youth, it will only matter what the respective teams have done. If Seguin wins scoring titles but his team rarely makes the playoffs and doesn't get past the 2nd round but Boston makes a couple of deep runs with Smith and Morrow as key players then how can you say they lost? Way too early to say they made a bad choice for the future of the franchise when the future has yet to be written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 What I'm saying shouldn't be particularly controversial. When judging the trade 5-7 years from now, because the Bruins knew they were taking a mitigated risk to replace current bodies, more cap space, and get more youth, it will only matter what the respective teams have done. If Seguin wins scoring titles but his team rarely makes the playoffs and doesn't get past the 2nd round but Boston makes a couple of deep runs with Smith and Mirrow as key players then how can you say they lost? Way too early to say they made a bad choice for the future of the franchise when the future as yet to be written. Why would you judge the trade in 5-7 years? Seguin has 20 years of hockey left in his career. Will Eriksson and Smith's contributions be bigger than Seguins over the next 20 years? Nope, not even close. Seguin is a legitimate superstar and arguably has the most value of any player in the league, PERIOD. There is no player younger than him and better. Colossal mistake by the Bruins to give up on a player with his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Why would you judge the trade in 5-7 years? Seguin has 20 years of hockey left in his career. Will Eriksson and Smith's contributions be bigger than Seguins over the next 20 years? Nope, not even close. Seguin is a legitimate superstar and arguably has the most value of any player in the league, PERIOD. There is no player younger than him and better. Colossal mistake by the Bruins to give up on a player with his potential If you can't judge the trade in 5-7 years when the results are in then surely you can't judge it now. Team building, especially in a cap world, takes more than just short term thinking. Teams need depth and they need it at multiple positions and at certain times to replace certain players. If Smith is a top 6 winger and Morrow is a top pairing D then losing the superstar isn't the end of the world., especially if you're winning. Losing the best players doesn't always mean the team got a bad deal for their own situation. Until we see which team Wins more, and who contributes to those wins, we don''t know who won the trade. That will take years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 If you can't judge the trade in 5-7 years when the results are in then surely you can't judge it now. Team building, especially in a cap world, takes more than just short term thinking. Teams need depth and they need it at multiple positions and at certain times to replace certain players. If Smith is a top 6 winger and Morrow is a top pairing D then losing the superstar isn't the end of the world., especially if you're winning. Losing the best players doesn't always mean the team got a bad deal for their own situation. Until we see which team Wins more, and who contributes to those wins, we don''t know who won the trade. That will take years. Look at Seguin's play in Dallas. The chance of Eriksson Smith and Morrow contributing more to their team than Seguin is incredibly low. Boston is trending downward. This trade is looking even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Might be the return will be higher than his value. Might be the inconsistencies or lack of professionalism he is tainted with. Might be that he has so much potential and refuses to or can't bring it consistently. Might be that his personal issues are getting in the way of his bringing it. Might only be negative perceptions ,coupled with a lackadaisical attitude, that upsets fans. Or, in your case, simply hatred for no rational reason towards a young kid who has a bit over two full seasons as an NHL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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