GreyHatnDart Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 That's because..dun dun dun dun....Burrows was never really used for the PP in those years, or even subsequent years really. The PP was always Sedins + Kes + 2 dmen (Ehrhoff, Salo, Edler, Bieksa, Garrison). This is the first time in awhile we've consistently done 4 fwds and 1 D for the PP. Imagine what his numbers would be like in his best years if he actually did get PP time, possibly 35, 40-45, 35, goals would've been possible for him. I was commenting on the fact that he hasn't produced PP points in regards to Burnsey's comment in regards to Horvat. He was using Burrows as justification by saying he wasn't supposed to have a ceiling higher than a "third liner/bottom six guy" and yet he's put up big offensive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster12 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 How long till Kass is back btw..? the guys who will make a seemingly ridiculous or. Whatever line hes at 999.9 x better, yes 999.9 better because you know, noones perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickd73 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I'd hesitate to use Horvat as a net front presence, only because there's nobody else who can take faceoffs like he can right now, and if he gets injured, that's mega bad news. It's also not the time to be experimenting. After another few games of PP's that don't score, maybe. But not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Why? Why rush his development? What justification is there to put him there other than it'd be nice to see? He is developing just fine where he is. Defense first, zone coverage first. He's naturally skilled so his offense will be there when the time comes. Right now, KISS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I'd hesitate to use Horvat as a net front presence, only because there's nobody else who can take faceoffs like he can right now, and if he gets injured, that's mega bad news. It's also not the time to be experimenting. After another few games of PP's that don't score, maybe. But not now. How does he take the faceoffs exactly that makes Bo so different? Bo is a good 4th line center that is good on draws as a 19-year-old, but he is not our best faceoff man. He'll get there eventually, but he isn't some amazing faceoff specialist for us right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Stop trying to rush his development. He's coming along nicely and will continue to improve. At the moment, Vey has better offensive skills and there's no way he replaces Bonino or Higgins. The second unit gets the crumbs left over from the 1st. Hardly ever have time to set up, let along get any shots on goal. It's hardly a situation that Bo will improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickd73 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 How does he take the faceoffs exactly that makes Bo so different? Bo is a good 4th line center that is good on draws as a 19-year-old, but he is not our best faceoff man. He'll get there eventually, but he isn't some amazing faceoff specialist for us right now. So far he's better than Richardson with a better offensive upside, and he's better than Henrik on the draw, not to mention faster getting back on the PK. He may not have the hands that Henrik does, but that's not what he was drafted for anyway. What makes anyone think he'd be a good net front presence? Junior success very often doesn't transfer over, and if he's doing what he's asked, why experiment now? Burrows is doing just fine these last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 So far he's better than Richardson with a better offensive upside, and he's better than Henrik on the draw, not to mention faster getting back on the PK. He may not have the hands that Henrik does, but that's not what he was drafted for anyway. What makes anyone think he'd be a good net front presence? Junior success very often doesn't transfer over, and if he's doing what he's asked, why experiment now? Burrows is doing just fine these last few games. Bo is at 55% while taking half the amount of draws that Henrik takes. Henrik takes draws against the best in the world while remaining above 50%. If Bo was our best faceoff man he would take more draws - right now he is averaging less than 10 draws per game. Yes he plays 4th line minutes - but if he was truly our best faceoff man, he would be used for more draws than that like Malhotra, who also has double the amount of draws taken than Bo so far for Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It doesn't matter who is on the 2nd pp unit. When you're starting in your own end with 30 seconds of pp time left you won't be putting up significant pp points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Bo's board work down low could be worth it alone. The 2nd units zone time is terrible. IF Bonino had someone to actually fetch the puck and give him some room he can make some sick passes. Sounds like Kassian to a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Forget the powerplay. I like to see WD use him more on the PK, where he's more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Manny Malhotra has the 2nd most faceoffs taken for Montreal while playing 4th line minutes.. Not hard to take a lot of faceoffs when you are actually the best faceoff man on your team because the team uses you in key faceoff situations. That's the point. He needs to take more face offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 That's the point. He needs to take more face offs. Or his FO% would suffer if he took more so WD limits his use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster12 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Sounds like Kassian to a tee. haha, Matthias and Richie does that for kassian actually, and what Kassian does is he take the puck on the board at the left wing,on the board just inside the offensive line and freeze the puck there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Or his FO% would suffer if he took more so WD limits his use I've noticed in your posts you're very critical of Horvat... Is there a reason for that or are you just trying not to get too overzealous for a 19 year old rookie? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I've noticed in your posts you're very critical of Horvat... Is there a reason for that or are you just trying not to get too overzealous for a 19 year old rookie? Lol Hardly. I think Bo's incredible for a 19-year-old center in that he is already solid in his own zone and good on faceoffs. I'm just critical of the notion around here that Horvat is our best faceoff man because I don't think he is. He's at 55% (5% higher than Henrik) but took half the amount of draws and the least out of all our centers. I just don't think someone who averages less than 10 draws per game is not your "best" faceoff man - your best should be out there taking a lot more. I think he's great for a 19-year-old, pretty good as an NHLer, but not the best on the Canucks (yet - he projects to be that guy in the future though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks-12 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 For the PP I'd like to see: Sedin-Sedin-Bonino Vrbata-Edler Vey-Horvat-Burrows Weber-Bieksa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 For the PP I'd like to see: Sedin-Sedin-Bonino Vrbata-Edler Vey-Horvat-Burrows Weber-Bieksa This so much. Bonino on the first unit would do WONDERS. He thinks in the same level as the Sedins and was a PP specialist himself on his previous team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Hasn't shown the offensive prowess to justify the promotion. He hasn't even been given the opportunity. His line is with Dorsett, where they're told that their only offensive goal each shift is to get the puck in deep and finish your checks, very minimally offensively minded line. Not to mention the second PP can't get much worse, so its worth the try to finally give Horvat an actual offensive chance for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 For the PP I'd like to see: Sedin-Sedin-Bonino Vrbata-Edler Vey-Horvat-Burrows Weber-Bieksa I would put Vrbata on second unit to spread it out. Allow two dangerous units to rotate, for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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