UFCanuck Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Get Shane O'Brien the Dreaded SOB-BS combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure the 10/30 waivers rule refers to 30 days on the NHL roster and not 30 calendar days. The most recent example would be last season with Pascal Pelletier. He was sent through waivers and assigned to Utica on September 20th, 2013. Then recalled October 24th, reassigned October 26th, recalled February 4th, 2014, and finally reassigned on February 9th, 2014. He only had to clear waivers on the first AHL assignment, on September 20th. All the other movements that season were without waivers IIRC. So Sanguinetti should still have a fair sized chunk of NHL roster days left before his waiver status resets. I believe he only spent two days on the roster in November. And he didn't dress so he has the full 10 games remaining as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Get Shane O'Brien the Dreaded SOB-BS combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure the 10/30 waivers rule refers to 30 days on the NHL roster and not 30 calendar days. The most recent example would be last season with Pascal Pelletier. He was sent through waivers and assigned to Utica on September 20th, 2013. Then recalled October 24th, reassigned October 26th, recalled February 4th, 2014, and finally reassigned on February 9th, 2014. He only had to clear waivers on the first AHL assignment, on September 20th. All the other movements that season were without waivers IIRC. So Sanguinetti should still have a fair sized chunk of NHL roster days left before his waiver status resets. I believe he only spent two days on the roster in November. And he didn't dress so he has the full 10 games remaining as well. Well, ok, I looked further. You're right. Sanguinetti is not subject to waivers if sent back down before he's been on the roster 30 days, cumulative since he last cleared waivers. Section 13.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement reads: 13.2 The "Playing Season Waiver Period" shall begin on the twelfth (12th) day prior to the start of the Regular Season and end on the day following the last day of a Club's Playing Season. Subject to the provisions of this Article, the rights to the services of a Playermay be Loaned to a club of another league, upon fulfillment of the following conditions, except when elsewhere expressly prohibited: (a) Regular Waivers were requested and cleared during the Playing Season Waiver Period; and ( the Player has not played in ten (10) or more NHL Games cumulative since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared, and more than thirty (30) days cumulative on an NHL roster have not passed since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpworsley Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Weber has a great slap shot... to bad he chooses not to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Get Shane O'Brien the Dreaded SOB-BS combination. [/quote Knee slapper right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Let's hope he doesn't just sit in the press box like Biega and Corrado did. Give Weber a game off and see what BS can do. Thats BS and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Weber has a great slap shot... to bad he chooses not to use it Weber has more SOG than half our roster. Including Henrik, Tanev, Hansen, among others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 He really shouldn't be though. According to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Crosby Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Weber has more SOG than half our roster. Including Henrik, Tanev, Hansen, among others. So he shoots more than the best passer on the team playing with two snipers,a more defensively inclined defesemen, who doesn't quarterback a PP and a fourth liner. I would have never guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 What about Bob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Well, ok, I looked further. You're right. Sanguinetti is not subject to waivers if sent back down before he's been on the roster 30 days, cumulative since he last cleared waivers. Section 13.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement reads: 13.2 The "Playing Season Waiver Period" shall begin on the twelfth (12th) day prior to the start of the Regular Season and end on the day following the last day of a Club's Playing Season. Subject to the provisions of this Article, the rights to the services of a Playermay be Loaned to a club of another league, upon fulfillment of the following conditions, except when elsewhere expressly prohibited: (a) Regular Waivers were requested and cleared during the Playing Season Waiver Period; and ( the Player has not played in ten (10) or more NHL Games cumulative since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared, and more than thirty (30) days cumulative on an NHL roster have not passed since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared.Thanks for this. I was pretty sure but I don't keep a copy of the CBA on mobile and didn't feel like downloading the PDF on my phone. And as far as Bobby Sanguinetti goes, I'm definitely in the camp that hopes he plays on this call up. The most obvious choice would be to swap him into Weber's spot. Bobby does everything better than Weber IMO except hitting. He's a phenomenal skater, and actually won the skating comp at the AHL all star a few years back, setting a record at the time IIRC. He also has a very hard shot and has competed in the AHL competition and some team skills tourneys, although I remember him whiffing a bit at the 2010 AHL all star and I've only seen him clocked at just under 90 mph (still good but he can shoot harder). More than velocity though, he has a knack for getting shots through from the point, whether slappers or wristers, and knows when an accurate "off speed" attempt is better than putting your head down and blasting away. He's also a guy with more offensive dynamism, in terms of "puck rushing" ability, than pretty much anybody on our current D. And unlike in the past, this year's version of Bobby Sangs has added strength to his frame and has tightened up his play in his own end (he's Utica's best D and leads the team in plus/minus). We need to see what he can do at the NHL level. And Comets fans deserve better than having the parent team steal away their #1D to merely fill a chair in the Canucks' press box. It's almost a shame that this is happening right after the Christmas break. If it was during a busier stretch, I might even argue for resting Bieksa for a game and letting Bobby sub in for him. EDIT: added a little a fixed a couple typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarGirl Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Let's hope he doesn't just sit in the press box like Biega and Corrado did. Give Weber a game off and see what BS can do. LOL Yeah. That's the worst. Corrado sat like for a long time and never played a Game in the end anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Let's hope he doesn't just sit in the press box like Biega and Corrado did. Give Weber a game off and see what BS can do. Completely agree. Last time he was called up he sat in the press box for one game then went back down. So far the Canucks have been giving the Utica defencemen turns sitting in the press box: Sanguinetti, then Corrado, then Biega, now Sanguinetti again. They are of course happy to get the extra money as they are all on two-way contracts that pay much more (between 3 times as much and ten times as much for each NHL game they are on the 23 man roster). But it real is time to give Sanguinetti a chance. He has been outstanding in Utica whereas Weber has been so-so on the Canucks. I just don't see how the coaches can be so confident Weber is better than Sanguinetti. I don't see what more he could do in Utica to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm excited to see what Booby can do with the Nucks. And agree with the majority above in that he should take Weber out of the lineup for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Guys, Weber has not been THAT bad. If we're really gonna throw a defender under the bus based on their play, it would be Bieksa but I guess he's untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 For me Weber has been pretty steady. I don't believe in lying about a player's performances to justify him being dropped in favour of the latest "new thing" I doubt Willie does either and he is the guy that counts. Having said that I have no problem in giving Weber (or anyone else) a rest so that we can see what Sanguinetti has got under the hood. PS OP, how about getting the guy's name right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I think he'll be a boost offensively for our back-end.Can't wait to see him in some game action.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Well, ok, I looked further. You're right. Sanguinetti is not subject to waivers if sent back down before he's been on the roster 30 days, cumulative since he last cleared waivers. Section 13.2 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement reads: 13.2 The "Playing Season Waiver Period" shall begin on the twelfth (12th) day prior to the start of the Regular Season and end on the day following the last day of a Club's Playing Season. Subject to the provisions of this Article, the rights to the services of a Playermay be Loaned to a club of another league, upon fulfillment of the following conditions, except when elsewhere expressly prohibited: (a) Regular Waivers were requested and cleared during the Playing Season Waiver Period; and ( the Player has not played in ten (10) or more NHL Games cumulative since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared, and more than thirty (30) days cumulative on an NHL roster have not passed since Regular Waivers on him were last cleared. 10 ''NHL'' games and 30 days ''on an NHL roster." Safe he is then. Thanx for digging it up! Still happy he / somebody (with some speed and puck skills) is getting a crack. Hope he does well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeywoot Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Completely agree. Last time he was called up he sat in the press box for one game then went back down. So far the Canucks have been giving the Utica defencemen turns sitting in the press box: Sanguinetti, then Corrado, then Biega, now Sanguinetti again. They are of course happy to get the extra money as they are all on two-way contracts that pay much more (between 3 times as much and ten times as much for each NHL game they are on the 23 man roster). But it real is time to give Sanguinetti a chance. He has been outstanding in Utica whereas Weber has been so-so on the Canucks. I just don't see how the coaches can be so confident Weber is better than Sanguinetti. I don't see what more he could do in Utica to prove himself. Agree on giving BobS a chance. However, I disagree that Weber has been terrible. He is two points behind our leading defenceman in points. He is a serviceable bottom pairing defenceman. Not one a contender, but we are not one either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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