Maniwaki Canuck Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Vancouver, B.C. – Vancouver Canucks General Manager Jim Benning announced today that the Canucks have recalled defenceman Frank Corrado from the AHL Utica Comets and have reassigned defenceman Bobby Sanguinetti. I guess the idea is to rotate deserving members of the Comets through a brief salary top-up and rest with the big club. But there doesn't seem to be any thought of actually letting them play a game or two. I'd be interested to know how they can be so sure of the pecking order when it comes to guys like Weber vs. Sanguinetti without ever putting it to the test in NHL game action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 *yawn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Bieksa out please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 also Sanguinetti was named to the AHL all-star game, i believe, so they want him to be ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 *yawn* Funny, I thought you were part of the crowd that wanted a PMD but hey, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 also Sanguinetti was named to the AHL all-star game, i believe, so they want him to be ready to go. That actually makes some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Damn, I really wanted to see what Sanguinetti could do since Weber looks like he'll miss Thursday. I guess the idea is to rotate deserving members of the Comets through a brief salary top-up and rest with the big club. But there doesn't seem to be any thought of actually letting them play a game or two. I'd be interested to know how they can be so sure of the pecking order when it comes to guys like Weber vs. Sanguinetti without ever putting it to the test in NHL game action. I think the idea isn't to rest them but to have them up and practicing with the Canucks. Even if they don't get to play, they have a chance to learn our system first hand and build a little bit of chemistry with potential team mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Sanguinetti definitely needs a look at the NHL level at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think the point is to rotate them, just in case somebody from the defence gets injured. Weber's been playing very well but last game, he took a bit of punishment. Hopefully he's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Bieksa out please. Careful what you wish for - last time he was out, Canucks lost more games than they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Sanguinetti definitely needs a look at the NHL level at some point. Yeah but is any defenceman on the team really playing all that bad? Bieksa is the whipping boy but he really hasn't been so bad that he deserves benching/demotion/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah but is any defenceman on the team really playing all that bad? Bieksa is the whipping boy but he really hasn't been so bad that he deserves benching/demotion/etc. I agree with this, but one way to do it without humiliating anyone would be in back-to-back situations, as a maintenance day. When you've got depth, this is a smart way to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 To bad, I really wanted to see Bobby S play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah but is any defenceman on the team really playing all that bad? Bieksa is the whipping boy but he really hasn't been so bad that he deserves benching/demotion/etc. Bieksa has not been good this season at all. Probably the worst season of his career by far and he has been a net liability over the course of the season. That much is pretty obvious. But the culture in Van is that older veteran core guys are exempt from accountability in that sense so he will never get scratched. Knowing what, if anything, we have in Sanguinetti is very important though imo because it gives Benning information to make decisions regarding the rest of our D. He is a different style player than most of our D with his own strengths and weaknesses. But if he can step in and fill a role then maybe it opens up possibilities to trade someone else for other help. Without seeing how his play translates to our NHL team Benning is flying a bit blind in regards to our overall depth on defense. Practices and AHL games can only tell you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Careful what you wish for - last time he was out, Canucks lost more games than they won. Heretic, I don't really understand why you're Bieksa's white knight lately... Everytime someone makes a comment about Bieksa playing poorly, below expectations or anything, you're immediately there calling the poster out or saying they don't understand hockey. Its one thing to defend the players of your favorite team, but its another to constantly berate people for having an opinion that differs from yours. I personally think that Bieksa has played atrocious this season. I think hes a great guy who has been an amazing player to this franchise, but more often than not I see him making bone-head plays or skating around doing nothing while the opposition is scoring on us. With that said, its my opinion and you don't have to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Bieksa has not been good this season at all. Probably the worst season of his career by far and he has been a net liability over the course of the season. That much is pretty obvious. But the culture in Van is that older veteran core guys are exempt from accountability in that sense so he will never get scratched. Knowing what, if anything, we have in Sanguinetti is very important though imo because it gives Benning information to make decisions regarding the rest of our D. He is a different style player than most of our D with his own strengths and weaknesses. But if he can step in and fill a role then maybe it opens up possibilities to trade someone else for other help. Without seeing how his play translates to our NHL team Benning is flying a bit blind in regards to our overall depth on defense. Practices and AHL games can only tell you so much. I am not quite sure I understand how anyone thinks that you will have improved accountability by benching a veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Heretic, I don't really understand why you're Bieksa's white knight lately... Everytime someone makes a comment about Bieksa playing poorly, below expectations or anything, you're immediately there calling the poster out or saying they don't understand hockey. Its one thing to defend the players of your favorite team, but its another to constantly berate people for having an opinion that differs from yours. I personally think that Bieksa has played atrocious this season. I think hes a great guy who has been an amazing player to this franchise, but more often than not I see him making bone-head plays or skating around doing nothing while the opposition is scoring on us. With that said, its my opinion and you don't have to agree. Because not everyone answers the way you and some others do. "Bieksa out please" is a hate message not criticism. I agree he's not playing the way he used to - but neither have the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Careful what you wish for - last time he was out, Canucks lost more games than they won. I don't think anyone can suggest Bieksa at this stage is so important that if he was out the Canucks would be unable to play hockey anymore. In the past he was a very important cog in our defense and we did play a lot better with him in than out, that much is true. But suggesting that still applies now considering how poorly he has played this season is simply wishful thinking with no evidence to back it up. I would rather lose a few games anyway than stick with a status quo of vets never being held accountabl for their poor play especially since we have guys like Sanguinetti itching to prove themselves and get a shot. Our D might not be good and our deph guys may not be potential superstars but I want to see what they can do at the NHL level to see just what we have going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I am not quite sure I understand how anyone thinks that you will have improved accountability by benching a veteran. Everyone needs to be accountable for their play. I feel like he's had a lot of nights where he was less than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I am not quite sure I understand how anyone thinks that you will have improved accountability by benching a veteran. Then you have never played a team sport like hockey. Because for accountability to really work long term to create an environment where people put in their best and correct their weakensses (in ANY environment not just hockey) it needs to apply to all players no matter their age, standing on the team, etc. If a veteran player plays like crap for a half season like Bieksa has they should be held accountable for it just like a young player would. Otherwise it is not really accountability from a team perspective. It is telling everyone on the team that it is acceptable for vets to mail it in. And that is always a bad environment to foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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