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What's there to hide about? It's just a tongue-in-cheek comment.

The 1001 Arabian stories originated in the Middle East.

Nothing racist about what I wrote.

Saying they are so backwards that they still focused on 1001 Nights is like saying we are so backwards that we still focused on Noah's Ark...

Wait...

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You have a good point of course. One counter point though, is that the cartoonists themselves are not religious of any denomination. They are insulting everyone but themselves. Sure I give credit to the lack of negative reactions from devotees of other religions, and political affiliations. But for practical purposes, what did the cartoonists expect to accomplish with insults?

Do you know for a fact that none of the cartoonists are religious?

Edit: sorry, not are religious, but rather, were religious.

I have a hunch....

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Chickens coming home to roost here folks.

You can't insult religion. It's not a freedom of speech issue, it's a basic responsibility for your actions issue. The people saying this is a freedom of speech issue are the arrogant and ignorant of the world hands down. Doesn't deserve to be killed but what's eventually going to happen when you insult a people's way of life? Especially if that group of people are severely under attack by France and other western countries over the past 15 years. The fact that the western governments and media make themselves out to be victims of Muslims is perhaps the most disturbing issue in the world over the past 15 years considering the millions of Muslims killed at the hands of the western governments.

As for all you 'je suis charlie' people out there I assume you are all 'je suis iraq' people as well after the US coalition war on Iraq killed up to 400 journalists. Amirite?

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Chickens coming home to roost here folks.

You can't insult religion. It's not a freedom of speech issue, it's a basic responsibility for your actions issue. The people saying this is a freedom of speech issue are the arrogant and ignorant of the world hands down. Doesn't deserve to be killed but what's eventually going to happen when you insult a people's way of life? Especially if that group of people are severely under attack by France and other western countries over the past 15 years. The fact that the western governments and media make themselves out to be victims of Muslims is perhaps the most disturbing issue in the world over the past 15 years considering the millions of Muslims killed at the hands of the western governments.

As for all you 'je suis charlie' people out there I assume you are all 'je suis iraq' people as well after the US coalition war on Iraq killed up to 400 journalists. Amirite?

:rolleyes:

I guess you are ok with jews killing muslims when muslims continually insult them by calling them apes and pigs.. amirite.

These mental patients didn't attack the french government, french soldiers or anything else, these french citizens murdered in cold blood cartoonists over pictures of their imaginary friend.

And given the millions of people muslims have been slaughtering for the last 15 years from the phillipines to west africa.. cry me a fracking river.

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Do you know for a fact that none of the cartoonists are religious?

Edit: sorry, not are religious, but rather, were religious.

I have a hunch....

I think they were catholic.. they used to make some really flattering pictures of the pope.. i heard they loved jews as well, all the cries of anti semitism were nonsense they must have been zionists.. i'm sure your hunch is correct.

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Chickens coming home to roost here folks.

You can't insult religion. It's not a freedom of speech issue, it's a basic responsibility for your actions issue. The people saying this is a freedom of speech issue are the arrogant and ignorant of the world hands down. Doesn't deserve to be killed but what's eventually going to happen when you insult a people's way of life? Especially if that group of people are severely under attack by France and other western countries over the past 15 years. The fact that the western governments and media make themselves out to be victims of Muslims is perhaps the most disturbing issue in the world over the past 15 years considering the millions of Muslims killed at the hands of the western governments.

As for all you 'je suis charlie' people out there I assume you are all 'je suis iraq' people as well after the US coalition war on Iraq killed up to 400 journalists. Amirite?

Muslims have killed more of the own people than all the western governments put together. Muslim groups like Al Quieda, Hammas, Hezbola, Boco Haram & Isis have declared war on the west not the other way around.

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Chickens coming home to roost here folks.

You can't insult religion. It's not a freedom of speech issue, it's a basic responsibility for your actions issue. The people saying this is a freedom of speech issue are the arrogant and ignorant of the world hands down. Doesn't deserve to be killed but what's eventually going to happen when you insult a people's way of life? Especially if that group of people are severely under attack by France and other western countries over the past 15 years. The fact that the western governments and media make themselves out to be victims of Muslims is perhaps the most disturbing issue in the world over the past 15 years considering the millions of Muslims killed at the hands of the western governments.

As for all you 'je suis charlie' people out there I assume you are all 'je suis iraq' people as well after the US coalition war on Iraq killed up to 400 journalists. Amirite?

Is anyone familiar with publications such as Al Watan? Some of their cartoons are much more offensive then Hebdo has ever done, specifically their portrayal of Jews. For example:

http://archive.adl.org/nr/exeres/b67af2d2-b675-4fa9-b56b-666e24cd4d8a,8c8c250f-da79-405f-b716-d4409cab5396,frameless.html

As overt and undisguised as this hatred is, the Jewish people as far as I can tell have never taken it upon themselves to specifically target those who are responsible for these cartoons being published.

We ought to be looking at matters such as this in their proper context before any of us point fingers at Hebdo for insulting anyone's religion, because in truth what they do is comparatively benign.

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Make fun of Buddhists, they dream about you.

Make fun of Christians, they pray for you.

Make fun of Catholics, they confess about you.

Make fun of Jehovah's Witnesses, they preach to you.

Make fun of Muslims, they drop a bomb on you.

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Chickens coming home to roost here folks.

You can't insult religion. It's not a freedom of speech issue, it's a basic responsibility for your actions issue. The people saying this is a freedom of speech issue are the arrogant and ignorant of the world hands down. Doesn't deserve to be killed but what's eventually going to happen when you insult a people's way of life? Especially if that group of people are severely under attack by France and other western countries over the past 15 years. The fact that the western governments and media make themselves out to be victims of Muslims is perhaps the most disturbing issue in the world over the past 15 years considering the millions of Muslims killed at the hands of the western governments.

As for all you 'je suis charlie' people out there I assume you are all 'je suis iraq' people as well after the US coalition war on Iraq killed up to 400 journalists. Amirite?

You can insult religion.

You can't murder.

Simple.

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CTV Story:

Lori Hinnant And Elaine Ganley, The Associated Press
Published Friday, January 9, 2015 8:03AM EST
Last Updated Friday, January 9, 2015 12:31PM EST

PARIS -- Police officials say at least 4 people are dead, including the gunman, in the Paris kosher grocery hostage crisis.

A security official says the two brothers suspected in the Charlie Hebdo massacre came out firing, prompting the assault on the building where they had holed up with a hostage.

The official was not authorized to speak about the sensitive operations and spoke on condition of anonymity.

ATTACKS IN PARIS
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Flashes of light at the kosher market, in Paris, Friday Jan. 9, 2015.

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Smoke is seen from a building where Charlie Hebdo attack suspects are located in Dammartin-en-Goele, Friday, Jan. 9, 2014.

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Security officers escort released hostages after they stormed a kosher market to end a hostage situation, Paris, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Michel Euler)

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A hooded police officer aim from a rooftop in Dammartin-en-Goele, northeast of Paris, where the two brothers suspected in a deadly terror attack were cornered, Friday, Jan.9, 2015. (AP / Christophe Ena)

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Cherif Kouachi, left, 32, and his brother, Said Kouachi, 34, are the suspects in the Paris shooting and are visible in this image provided by the Paris Police Prefecture.

Officials say the brothers died in the assault.

Another official, police union representative Christophe Crepin, said it appeared that the gunman who took hostages at a kosher market had also died in a nearly simultaneous raid there.

Crepin spoke to LCI televison.

This is a developing story. Our earlier report follows.

PARIS -- French police stormed a printing plant north of Paris on Friday, freeing a hostage and killing two brothers linked to al Qaeda who were suspected of slaying 12 people at a Paris newspaper two days ago.

Two groups of terrorists had seized hostages at separate locations around the French capital Friday, facing off against thousands of French security forces as the city shut down a famed Jewish neighbourhood and scrambled to protect residents and tourists from further attacks.

By Friday afternoon, explosions and gunshots rang out and white smoke rose outside a printing plant in Dammartin-en-Goele, northeast of Paris, where brothers Cherif Kouachi, 32, and Said Kouachi, 34, had holed up with a hostage.

Security forces had surrounded the building for most of the day. After the explosions, a police SWAT forces could be seen on the roof of the building and one police helicopter landed near it.

Audrey Taupenas, spokeswoman for the town near the Charles de Gaulle airport, said the brothers had died in the clash.

France has been high alert since the country's worst terror attack in decades -- the massacre Wednesday in Paris at the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo that left 12 people dead.

Minutes before the storming, a gunman in a Paris kosher grocery store had threatened to kill his five hostages if French authorities launched an assault on the two brothers, a police official said. The two sets of hostage-takers know each other, said the official, who was not authorized to discuss the rapidly developing situations with the media.

Trying to fend off further attacks, the Paris mayor's office shut down all shops along Rosiers Street in the city's famed Marais neighbourhood in the heart of the tourist district. Hours before the Jewish Sabbath, the street is usually crowded with shoppers -- French Jews and tourists alike. The street is also only a kilometre away from Charlie Hebdo's offices.

At the kosher grocery near the Porte de Vincennes neighbourhood in Paris, the gunman burst in shooting just a few hours before the Jewish Sabbath began, declaring "You know who I am," the official recounted. The attack came before sundown when the store would have been crowded with shoppers.

The official said the gunman is also believed responsible for the roadside killing of a Paris policewoman on Thursday.

Paris police released a photo of the gunman, Amedy Coulibaly, and a second suspect, a woman named Hayet Boumddiene, who the official said was his accomplice.

Several people wounded when the gunman opened fire in the kosher grocery were able to flee and get medical care, the official said.

Police said 100 students were under lockdown in schools nearby and the highway ringing Paris was closed.

Hours before and 40 kilometres away , a convoy of police trucks, helicopters and ambulances streamed toward Dammartin-en-Goele, a small industrial town near Charles de Gaulle airport, to seize the Charlie Hebdo suspects, who had hijacked a car in a nearby town after more than two days on the run.

"They said they want to die as martyrs," Yves Albarello, a local lawmaker who said he was inside the command post, told French television station i-Tele.

Cherif Kouachi, 32, was convicted of terrorism charges in 2008 for ties to a network sending jihadis to fight U.S. forces in Iraq.

A Yemeni security official said his 34-year-old brother, Said Kouachi, is suspected of having fought for al Qaeda in Yemen. Another senior security official says Kouachi was in Yemen until 2012.

Both officials spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of an ongoing investigation into Kouachi's stay in Yemen.

Both brothers were on the U.S. no-fly list, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss foreign intelligence publicly.

Associated Press writers Lori Hinnant, Sylvie Corbet, Jamey Keaten and Samuel Petrequin in Paris; Jill Lawless in London; and Ken Dilanian in Washington contributed to this report.

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French police officers gather near a hostage-taking situation at a kosher market, visible in the background, in Paris, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Michel Euler)

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Armed police officers walk on a roof of a building in Dammartin-en-Goele, northeast of Paris, where the two brothers suspected in a deadly terror attack were cornered, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Michel Spingler)

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French officers escort children from the Henri Dunand school onto a bus to be taken to a safe location to be picked up by their parents in Dammartin-en-Goele, 30 km northeast of Paris, France, Friday Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Peter Dejong)

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Charles de Gaulle airport closed two runways to arrivals to avoid interfering in the standoff, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Dalton Bennett)

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A woman takes care of a child inside a school in Dammartin-en-Goele, northeast of Paris, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Peter Dejong)

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Police forces take positions in Dammartin-en-Goele, northeast Paris, as part of an operation to seize two heavily armed suspects, Friday, Jan. 9, 2015. (AP / Michel Spingler)

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Police outside the kosher market in Paris, Friday Jan. 9, 2015. (david_dlr / Twitter)

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/at-least-4-dead-in-paris-grocery-hostage-crisis-1.2180430?hootPostID=62326ef018ccb7e0898938c3b8a56396

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