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Are they going to broadcast the 2nd day? cause last year i couldn't get the 2nd day on TV

I think NHL on the Fly does the full 2nd round coverage, as the first round is generally covered by TSN.

If not than generally NHL.com does free online streaming for the second part of the draft. That is what I did last year.

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Just looked at the player types that had the most success against Chicago in the playoffs. Tampa's small snipers Johnson and Kucherov, for example, vanished against them. But Getzlaf and Anaheims power wingers racked up points against them, as well as Nashville's guys. I believe Chicago/Anaheim was the real finals because it was a lot closer. I wanted Tampa to win, but the close scores flattered them. Chicago controlled the whole series.

Nate Thompson, the 'playoff-type' player Tampa dumped to the Ducks, had more ppg than any Tampa player had vs. Chicago in the finals.

I don't think anything has changed at all when it comes to winning in the playoffs, and it never will. And no, I am not saying line up a team full of 250lb goons either. Nor a team full of Nate Thompsons. It's always been about the combination of speed, strength and skill to get pucks to opposition nets. If you don't have enough of this, you'll never win.

Players that scored the most points per game against Chicago in the 2015 playoffs: Getzlaf 1.14, Silfverberg and Forsberg 1.0, Wilson, Smith, Neal, Ribeiro .83, Parise, Dumba .75, Fowler, Thompson .71. Finally Callahan and Hedman, Tampa's biggest and toughest players, at .67

Most goals scored against Chicago in the 2015 playoffs: Wilson 5, Forsberg and Neal 4, Kesler, Maroon, Belesky, Perry 3, Smith, Killorn, Paquette 2. Johnson, Kucherov, Garrison and 20 other players 1.

Anaheim/Chicago was the real finals. Nashville is pretty good. And the leading scorer in the playoffs, Tyler Johnson, didn't do anything in the finals.

Dude Johnson had a broken wrist in the finals. Guarantee if he hadn't of gotten hurt he would of produced more. Plus he was the straw that stirred the drink on that line so without him being healthy it was over.

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Dude Johnson had a broken wrist in the finals. Guarantee if he hadn't of gotten hurt he would of produced more. Plus he was the straw that stirred the drink on that line so without him being healthy it was over.

Enough about the wrist. Injuries are excuses and excuses are for losers.

Continuing, in the 2014 finals, the most ppg against LA by the Rangers were: McD 0.80, Brassard & Kreider 0.60. Pretty much their biggest and toughest guys. St. Louis and Zuccarello vanished while the bigger, faster and more skilled LA team completely out-classed them.

In the 2013 finals, who scored the most points against Chicago? Krejci? Bergeron? No and no. That's right, Milan Lucic. That series was a lot closer than the 2014 and 2015 finals, but Boston had won a cup already.

And who do you ask scored the most goals against the Bruins in 2011? Sedin? Other Sedin? No and no. It was Maxim Lapierre. Ho-ly crap! Lapierre showed up while the rest of our core didn't. No wonder they kicked our ass.

You see, there's a difference between regular season team, and playoff team. A regular season player, and a playoff player. I think Benning might know how to build a playoff team. But he's got a lot of work to do. In particular, on the defense, where there is close to nothing.

On that note, Vince Dunn and Travis Dermott had the most impressive playoffs out of any 2015 draft defensemen in the CHL. And in Sweden? Oliver Kylington and Jacob Larsson. Just some consideration.

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Should be interesting this week, I have a feeling we won't be drafting a defender. With what went on this playoffs I see defenders being bumped up the draft board and the best players available will be forwards that slid down.

Because of his size Bittner probably won't slide, but he's not a bad pick

Svechnikov looks like an interesting choice, works hard but supposedly a bit inconsistent

White might slide too. Strong leader, 2-way centre. Button doesn't think high of him but most have him in the 17-20 spot. I have a feeling that this is where Benning is headed; not sure I'm loving it.

Boeser is a very interesting choice as well. Supposedly has a very good work ethic. He might be the steal pick in the late first round. I'm not a scout by any means but I'd probably pick Boeser

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Enough about the wrist. Injuries are excuses and excuses are for losers.

Continuing, in the 2014 finals, the most ppg against LA by the Rangers were: McD 0.80, Brassard & Kreider 0.60. Pretty much their biggest and toughest guys. St. Louis and Zuccarello vanished while the bigger, faster and more skilled LA team completely out-classed them.

In the 2013 finals, who scored the most points against Chicago? Krejci? Bergeron? No and no. That's right, Milan Lucic. That series was a lot closer than the 2014 and 2015 finals, but Boston had won a cup already.

And who do you ask scored the most goals against the Bruins in 2011? Sedin? Other Sedin? No and no. It was Maxim Lapierre. Ho-ly crap! Lapierre showed up while the rest of our core didn't. No wonder they kicked our ass.

You see, there's a difference between regular season team, and playoff team. A regular season player, and a playoff player. I think Benning might know how to build a playoff team. But he's got a lot of work to do. In particular, on the defense, where there is close to nothing.

On that note, Vince Dunn and Travis Dermott had the most impressive playoffs out of any 2015 draft defensemen in the CHL. And in Sweden? Oliver Kylington and Jacob Larsson. Just some consideration.

Spoken like someone who has never played any sport. Injuries are not excuses they are handicaps and therefore affect outcomes.

If you really think that was clever, I'm afraid you haven't a clue. Any injury, especially in a sport like hockey affects, timing and confidence, lower body can affect balance and ability to turn sharply or can affect speed.

If you think these are irrelevant and don't affect your game, as I said you have never played the sport.

If he played with a broken wrist or even a broken bone in his wrist of course it would affect his game, his stick handling and his shooting.

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Should be interesting this week, I have a feeling we won't be drafting a defender. With what went on this playoffs I see defenders being bumped up the draft board and the best players available will be forwards that slid down.

Because of his size Bittner probably won't slide, but he's not a bad pick

Svechnikov looks like an interesting choice, works hard but supposedly a bit inconsistent

White might slide too. Strong leader, 2-way centre. Button doesn't think high of him but most have him in the 17-20 spot. I have a feeling that this is where Benning is headed; not sure I'm loving it.

Boeser is a very interesting choice as well. Supposedly has a very good work ethic. He might be the steal pick in the late first round. I'm not a scout by any means but I'd probably pick Boeser

These are the two I particularly like along with Bittner for their goal scoring.

The guy I don't want is Merkley ("There is something left to be desired having observed his individual skills, such as puckhandling, footspeed, and decision-making, for a prolonged period of time; there is definitely room for improvement in the small areas of his game.") And he is on the small side, we have enough around that size already.

I also like the big Swedish centre Kevin Stenlund 6'-3" and 205lbs probably a 2nd or 3rd round pick and LW/RW Filip Ahl 6'-4" and 212lbs Swede 3rd or 4th round (if we get these picks back)

Filip Ahl

"A competitive winger who skates with good balance, using his large frame to establish his presence through physical play, and shields the puck exceptionally well. His offensive prowess is exhibited through his use of the neutral zone to pick up speed and momentum, his fine puckhandling ability, and his dominance on the forecheck. Filip Ahl plays to his strengths, using his intangibles and knowledge of the game to his advantage; in doing so, he can be a very difficult opponent to play against, and this is what will make him successful in the future."

Kevin Stenlund.

"An intelligent, big-bodied center with superb puckhandling ability. His greatest asset is his mature mindset: he thinks the game at a high level. Plays a simplified, complete game and doesn't make low-percentage plays. Uses his edges well at a level that suits his style of play - physical and hard to play against; that being said, there is still room for improvement in his skating and first three strides. Protects the puck well."

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It's time to have a Rusgasm:

1st round: Svechnikov/Guryanov

2nd round: Dergachev

3rd round: Gavrikov

Svechnikov Grigorenko Dergachev

Gavrikov Tryamkin

Time to make up for the lack of Russian players over the last 20 years. :lol:

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These are the two I particularly like along with Bittner for their goal scoring.

The guy I don't want is Merkley ("There is something left to be desired having observed his individual skills, such as puckhandling, footspeed, and decision-making, for a prolonged period of time; there is definitely room for improvement in the small areas of his game.") And he is on the small side, we have enough around that size already.

Bittner Boeser and White from what I've read likely have the qualities in their game that JB would be interested in. I don't think Bittner will be around at our pick, usually the real big guys move up as the league has a hard on for talent. Out of Boeser and White, I choose Boeser

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Which D-men projected in the first round can immediately step into the AHL (if any)?

Only the Euros, Russians from the KHL (not under contract) or NCAA players not wanting to return to school

Any player from the OHL, WHL, QMJHL can't play in the AHL because they are too young

So I believe that leaves it down to Kylington, Carlsson, Larsson, Siegenthaler, and Cernak

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Sorry G, I was not clear. My point is offensive skill should trump all else, especially in the first round. Safe picks are great and all. Defensive character players are important to every team (see Oilers) and we now have them in spades on the Canucks...Horvat, McCann, Gaunce, Cassels. You may have more misses in the first round if you pick only skill, but you may land a Claude Giroux, Corey Perry or Nikita Kucherov or Tarasenko. Everyone on the CDC wants a replacement for Henrick, a 1C. If you are picking in the 15-24 range every year of the draft then you better take some chances on a player that other teams deem to slow (aka. Corey Perry) or too Russian (aka. Kucherov/Tarasenko). When was the last time we drafted an offensive stud... Pavel Bure? Just saying that you need offensive to win in the playoffs where all players tighten things up.

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Trying to get a Perry or Tarasenko every year at 24 is not very likely. Those types of players rarely slip that low.

If trying to hit a home run means passing on guys like Kesler or Richards, I'd rather take the "safe pick".

Hard work is key. That should be the starting point for every player whether it's a scorer or a checker. If you look at the skilled guys on the Kings and Hawks, they all have tireless work ethics to go along with their skill. That's one thing that can't be taught IMO.

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Trying to get a Perry or Tarasenko every year at 24 is not very likely. Those types of players rarely slip that low.

If trying to hit a home run means passing on guys like Kesler or Richards, I'd rather take the "safe pick".

Hard work is key. That should be the starting point for every player whether it's a scorer or a checker. If you look at the skilled guys on the Kings and Hawks, they all have tireless work ethics to go along with their skill. That's one thing that can't be taught IMO.

I don't disagree. I had skill as the most important quality, but compete level is a close second. And in the case that a prospect has questionable compete then I'd pass for sure. Kyle Wellwood is a prime example of this. The desire to do anything to guarantee a teams success is paramount.

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Ya, it's pretty hard to get excited about Carlo. Production is minimal, his defense, which is supposed to be a strong point, is -13 on the year. It's just a bad pick for sheer height, nothing more as his frame isn't even filled out.

I'd rank the following defensemen ahead of him:

everyone.

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