86Viking Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 With Buffalo possibly getting Eichel or Mcdavid they are going to have a ton of Centres. It seems like Buffalo would move Grigorenko. If he was available should we try to get him say at a decent cost? He is only 20, 6'3 200lb. Has that size down the middle we dont have, Matthias does but hes a ufa to be potentially and plays wing for us. Going forward I think Grigorenko could become a very good Center in this league. Benning doesnt seem to be afraid of the "Russian" tag as many say, so should we attempt to acquire him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'd move Jensen/Shinkaruk+ for him pretty easily. Not sure if that would interest Buffalo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 We already have 2 potential 2nd line centers + 2 potential 3rd line centers. don't need another. We need Barzal from the draft to be our top center in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 They would never move him, convert C's to Wingers. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 i would take grigorenko, i think he could be very good. Can always move someone to wing aswell. if the price isnt insane id say we should get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 We already have 2 potential 2nd line centers + 2 potential 3rd line centers. don't need another. We need Barzal from the draft to be our top center in the future. Grigorenko can also play the RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Not sure why you included Matthias in your ramble at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Not sure why you included Matthias in your ramble at all. he is the only compareble center on our team close to his size, thats why Size down the middle is key, he would fit in well against getzlaf,carter,kopitar,thornton,hanzal etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'd just concentrate on re-signing Matthias, it's not like we have any scoring depth so we shouldn't trade away Jensen or Shinkaruk, who if they reach their potential should both be good goal scorers in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I have never been sold on Grigorenko. Strikes me as a Yakupov type player. Successful in junior but going to really struggle at higher levels of competition. Wouldn't be surprised if he runs off to Russia just like Yak is bound to due. But maybe with the KHL struggling financially we won't see these young kids getting ludicrous amount of money thrown at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Buffalo has an incredible amount of riches both down the middle and on defense. Center: McEichel, Sam Reinhart, Zemgus Girgensons, Mikhail Grigorenko, Tyler Ennis, Cody Hodgson Defense: Rasmus Ristolainen, Tyler Myers, Nikita Zadorov, Jake McCabe, Mark Pysyk Where they are thinnest is goaltending. They are also lacking some talent on the wing. With no real bonafide goaltending prospect in their system nor in the draft, I think BUF's #1 goal this summer is to acquire a #1 goaltender/prospect that they can groom and a veteran who can split duties with him (or keep Enroth or Neuvirth). Hate to see it happen, but I think there is a deal to be made between ANA and BUF that makes sense for both teams. Potential Deal 1 To ANA: Sam Reinhart To BUF: John Gibson + ANA 2016 1st round pick Potential Deal 2 To BUF: Frederik Andersen To ANA: Zemgus Girgensons WHY ANA DOES THIS: Ryan Getzlaf turns 30 this year, and Ryan Kesler is turning 30 - it's time to start planning for the future. With two young starting goaltenders in Andersen and Gibson, they can afford to let one go to acquire a top 6 center prospect. ANA seamlessly transitions from the Ryan Getzlaf era to the next. WHY BUF DOES THIS: McEichel is here to stay - so it's Girgensons or Reinhart. I personally believe they need the size and grit Girgensons brings (in addition to his skills) behind McEichel, even though Reinhart is much more talented. Whatever the case, they can move one to get a bonafide goaltending prospect that they can build around. Step 1: Draft McEichel Step 2: Draft a big center with strong defensive play (future 3C) if he is BPA when picking with the other two 1st round picks (NYI and STL) - if not, wait until the 2nd round to pick one up Step 3: Trade Girgensons or Reinhart for a Gibson or Andersen package from ANA Step 4: Trade Hodgson for whatever you can get for him Step 5: Move Ennis and Grigorenko to the wing NOW, if they somehow play well enough to fall out of contention for McEichel, I think they should target Lawson Crouse to fill their need on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindizzy123 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ducks still want to win a cup, so they do not make that trade. Hash Tag # 30 not old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 kassian for grigorenko and coho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ducks still want to win a cup, so they do not make that trade. Hash Tag # 30 not old My bad I wasn't aware that you needed two starting goaltenders to win a cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Potential Deal 1 To ANA: Sam Reinhart To BUF: John Gibson + ANA 2016 1st round pick Potential Deal 2 To BUF: Frederik Andersen To ANA: Zemgus Girgensons Reinhart and Girgensons are untouchable. They have so many other options to get a solid goaltender. Hell, if Vancouver wants Grigorenko so much, then Buffalo can trade him for Lack or Markstrom (with other pieces going each way to even the deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindizzy123 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 John Gibson has proved nothing and a 1st from the ducks is second. So lets trade a mid range goalie and a 2nd for a grade A prospect like Reinhart hmmm that makes a lot of sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 There was a pretty good discussion on Grigs last week, actually. (Discussion) Vancouver-Buffalo (Grigorenko) It's something I've been a fan of doing (for the right price) for at least a year since Grigs has a skill set that none of our other center prospects can quite match - and better size as well. I'd proposed back when I started thinking about it to offer LaBate and McNally. Their value has switched somewhat now, with McNally performing well after the cheating scandal, and LaBate having a mediocre year. There was some back and forth (with input from our resident Sabres fan) and there was a bit of a consensus that something with Markstrom would work. Higgins was suggested too (once added with Markstrom just for Grigs - no thanks), but would he waive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 With Buffalo possibly getting Eichel or Mcdavid they are going to have a ton of Centres. It seems like Buffalo would move Grigorenko. If he was available should we try to get him say at a decent cost? ... Sorry to sound trite, but as he's a good prospect, given the wording of you question, of course. He's a reasonable target. He may not be available at a decent cost, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Markstrom for Grigs straight across? Could serve a need for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckstildeath Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Markstrom for Grigs straight across? Could serve a need for both teams. If buffalo would i would be happy with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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