Green Building Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Am I the only one that noticed a substantial gain in confidence with Juice with Hammer back in the line-up last night? I missed the whole game up to the last 2 & 1/2 minutes. I turned on the TV and saw it was 3-0 with Bieksa carrying it out from behind the net only to lose it in the slot. Luckily, I think it was Hansen who scooped it up preventing the shutout being broken on a sloppy turnover in his own damn crease. I am not a Bieksa hater, but that play reeked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new look 'nucks Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 MG said the exact same things and I can't recall him ever trading away prospects or picks for "temporary" fixes. In fact thats pretty much why he was run out of town because he wouldn't trade for a top 6 forward. MG wasn't run out of town for his refusal to trade for a top 6 forward, he was run out of town for his complete inability to run the team as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 MG wasn't run out of town for his refusal to trade for a top 6 forward, he was run out of town for his complete inability to run the team as a whole. This. Saying "you're either with me or against me" to the public doesn't exactly bode well for any GM. He lost his brain in the end. Period, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new look 'nucks Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I missed the whole game up to the last 2 & 1/2 minutes. I turned on the TV and saw it was 3-0 with Bieksa carrying it out from behind the net only to lose it in the slot. Luckily, I think it was Hansen who scooped it up preventing the shutout being broken on a sloppy turnover in his own damn crease. I am not a Bieksa hater, but that play reeked. He was also the one that gave the breakout pass that sprung Dorsette for the first goal of the game. But yes, that was a poor decision.. regardless of the score or time left to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new look 'nucks Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 This. Saying "you're either with me or against me" to the public doesn't exactly bode well for any GM. He lost his brain in the end. Period, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 One goal scored in his last 18 games played. Averaging one goal scored every 11 games played. Averaging one assist for every 7.3 games played. Lowest scoring active forward on the team. Only Sbisa has less points scored(1) on the entire active roster. Once again, like the others you never answered the questions but instead cited the same things, for which the captain has some pretty pointed remarks: "I think for him it's unfair the amount of pressure that's on him to score... In this market I think it's easy to just look at points... It's unfair, but that's this market and you have to live with it." Henrik Sedin, post-game against Detroit And of course, you completely ignore the last half of last season. At least you didn't make up nonsense about him this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I'm going to be disappointed when he does leave?????????? I think that's the last thing I'm going to be feeling. You want the other whipping boy I'll tell you it's Edler, this guy is horrible for what he's paid, he sure isn't the leader on the back end like he's supposed to be, or contributes offensively like he was paid to do. I'll be much happier when they both are gone, and this team will be in a better position without them, with players who can get the job done. Of course, you will jump for joy then move on to the next. It simply never ends, and that's the whole point -- like the tankers, nancies, and poop-lined rainbowers, you're a typical anti-fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Is there any thread on these boards that doesnt include the name Kassian in it? Its cdc craziness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Of course, you will jump for joy then move on to the next. It simply never ends, and that's the whole point -- like the tankers, nancies, and poop-lined rainbowers, you're a typical anti-fan. Jump for joy lol you believe what you want, I'm a realistic who wants this franchise to win a stanley cup in this lifetime not another. It's sad enough this franchise can't win a stanley cup, it's pathetic actually, but it's some people who would rather hang onto fan favorites then realize this is a business about WINNING, and part of that business is finding or replacing the players needed to get the job done correctly. Yes it sucks sometimes but unfortunately that's the part of running a successful business, but sometimes it's just to hard for some people to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Jump for joy lol you believe what you want, I'm a realistic who wants this franchise to win a stanley cup in this lifetime not another. It's sad enough this franchise can't win a stanley cup, it's pathetic actually, but it's some people who would rather hang onto fan favorites then realize this is a business about WINNING, and part of that business is finding or replacing the players needed to get the job done correctly. Yes it sucks sometimes but unfortunately that's the part of running a successful business, but sometimes it's just to hard for some people to comprehend. "I'm a realistic" typically translates to "I know more about this game than anyone here including Benning, Linden, Willie D, and the rest of the world." It's usually never accurate. In fact, it usually indicates denial by pumping your own ego up in order to make yourself think you're above everyone else. The reality is no one's a realist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Derek roy is the first thing that comes to mind. He was brought in as a 3rd line centre not a top 6 forward MG wasn't run out of town for his refusal to trade for a top 6 forward, he was run out of town for his complete inability to run the team as a whole. This is total nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 This is total nonsense Then prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Then prove it. 2 president trophies 1 trip to the stanley cup finals and GM of the year award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 2 president trophies 1 trip to the stanley cup finals and GM of the year award. Yes. Before he lost his marbles and went crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Jump for joy lol you believe what you want, I'm a realistic who wants this franchise to win a stanley cup in this lifetime not another. It's sad enough this franchise can't win a stanley cup, it's pathetic actually, but it's some people who would rather hang onto fan favorites then realize this is a business about WINNING, and part of that business is finding or replacing the players needed to get the job done correctly. Yes it sucks sometimes but unfortunately that's the part of running a successful business, but sometimes it's just to hard for some people to comprehend. It is also hard for some people to comprehend that they know way less about hockey than Canucks brass and it is not clueless fans jobs to assess players and decide which players to replace. Kassian may get moved. If so, then the return better be worth it. "I'm a realistic" typically translates to "I know more about this game than anyone here including Benning, Linden, Willie D, and the rest of the world." It's usually never accurate. Just saying. And a better judge of talent. The "usually" is not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 "I'm a realistic" typically translates to "I know more about this game than anyone here including Benning, Linden, Willie D, and the rest of the world." It's usually never accurate. In fact, it usually indicates denial by pumping your own ego up in order to make yourself think you're above everyone else. The reality is no one's a realist. Yes I know, I grew up being a very competitive person, I hate to lose, I'm all about winning always have and always will be. I'm not saying I know more then Benning or Linden or Willie, but I do like to feel and think I have some what the same mindset as they do about what it takes to WIN. There is a reason why I like all 3 of these guys more then I have liked any other people since the Burke, Crawford days. Benning is a winner, he doesn't like to lose but he also realizes how to make a team right and what pieces it needs to be complete. Linden is a guy who grew up under Pat Quinn who was probably the best mentor for him ever, and what Pat did here and his determination to do what ever it took to help this franchise win a cup, is what Trevor is all about too which I'm happy about. As far as Willie goes, I believe he knows exactly what he is doing of course he is still learning about this team and the players, but he knows what needs to be done to win, and isn't afraid to make the necessary changes to win, and having everyone on the same page no matter what is what is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It is also hard for some people to comprehend that they know way less about hockey than Canucks brass and it is not clueless fans jobs to assess players and decide which players to replace. Kassian may get moved. If so, then the return better be worth it. And a better judge of talent. The "usually" is not necessary. Alright, it's never accurate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It is also hard for some people to comprehend that they know way less about hockey than Canucks brass and it is not clueless fans jobs to assess players and decide which players to replace. Kassian may get moved. If so, then the return better be worth it. And a better judge of talent. The "usually" is not necessary. There is a reason why hockey is a Canadian thing, because it's in our blood. When you have about 25 years of hockey experience under your belt, playing,coaching, watching, judging you do have a say, a fan or not. Being a fan doesn't mean you have to live in a fairy world and bow down to every player and like every player, that's not the definition of being a fan. You can still be a fan and judge, because guess what that's exactly what the organization does, they want the best out of their player or if that player has to be moved. Does that mean the Canucks Brass are not true fans, because they are critical about a player on the team or think he shouldn't be part of the team because they don't like his mindset or work ethic? No because it's a business and it's all about winning and having he right players on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 ...and you and your fellow cult members will be sorely disappointed when he does leave, because you will require a new whipping boy to giggle and wet your panties over. Isn't it ultimately about the team though? If the assets coming back from any trade make the team better in the long run, that is success. It's not actually about the individual player - for them they need to be successful for whatever team they are playing for. If you like a player as a fan, you'll still like him on other teams, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Yes I know, I grew up being a very competitive person, I hate to lose, I'm all about winning always have and always will be. I'm not saying I know more then Benning or Linden or Willie, but I do like to feel and think I have some what the same mindset as they do about what it takes to WIN. There is a reason why I like all 3 of these guys more then I have liked any other people since the Burke, Crawford days. Benning is a winner, he doesn't like to lose but he also realizes how to make a team right and what pieces it needs to be complete. Linden is a guy who grew up under Pat Quinn who was probably the best mentor for him ever, and what Pat did here and his determination to do what ever it took to help this franchise win a cup, is what Trevor is all about too which I'm happy about. As far as Willie goes, I believe he knows exactly what he is doing of course he is still learning about this team and the players, but he knows what needs to be done to win, and isn't afraid to make the necessary changes to win, and having everyone on the same page no matter what is what is important. I'm sure everyone would like to think they know as much as a GM or a coach; however, we are not them. We are fans. I can understand your competitiveness. A lot of people are competitive on this board but that competitiveness can also be blinding. It's easy to see only the facts you want to see and not the whole picture. If you truely believe in the management, would it not be fair then that, if they believe in these "fan favourites" going forward, there is a reason for it? A lot of people want Kassian gone. Some people have even wanted the Sedins gone. Yet, these players are still playing. If you believe in the staff, and they are giving these players a chance, wouldn't it be fair then to also give those players a chance? If these players get traded or let go, then so be it. But, at this point, they are playing. They are being given chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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