shiznak Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 To Tampa Bay: Zack KassianTo Vancouver: 15' first rounder (either their's or NYR's, depending on which one is the lower pick)Why would TB make this deal:Tampa has an extra first round pick that they can afford to give up. Word is going around that they want to add some toughness at the deadline, for a long playoff run. While, Kassian might have some inconsistent issues, he will bring that physical game to TB, and he's still fairly young with a ton of "skills". Maybe playing under Steve Y would light a fire under him?Why would Vancouver make this deal?: Setting up for the future. I think we all can agree that the Kassian experiment has failed here. He's still a good role player and It would suck to lose that toughness that he brings, but this team won't be contending for a Cup for a while. Time for both parties to move on. To Edmonton: Jacob Markstrom 15' 2nd rounder To Vancouver: 15' 2nd rounderWhy would EDM make this deal: Fasth is a UFA at the end of the season, and it looks like they won't be signing him back. Markstrom could possibly come in and steal the starting job from Scrivens. Edmonton essentially move down a few spot down the draft and get Markstrom for peanuts.Why would Vancouver make this deal?: We move up in the draft and stock pile more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 i like +1 for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_74 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Kassian is not worth a first round pick, it would have to be more along the lines of Kassian-2nd or 3rd round pick to get a 2015 1st. The Edmonton deal though, i do like the sounds of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I am not sure what makes Markstrom anything better than what Edmonton already has. If I were them I would rather go after a real goalie this year like Niemi rather than downgrade what is a high 2nd round pick in the hopes that another fringe NHL goalie is the answer. Kassian is not worth a 1st, if he was I bet Benning would have pulled the trigger on that rather easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 It really depends on the team and how desperate they are for a certain player. I could see Kassian go for a late first, if a team needs toughness in their bottom six. Like I said, he's still young with a load of potential. Could jump into a top six role, of an injuries occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It really depends on the team and how desperate they are for a certain player. I could see Kassian go for a late first, if a team needs toughness in their bottom six. Like I said, he's still young with a load of potential. Could jump into a top six role, of an injuries occurs. I think his value right now especially after the injury and healthy scratches is rock bottom. His career high is 29 points, this year he is playing at a 17 point pace. He is not particularly great defensively so what does he really bring to a contender? No team in the 1-20 range is going to give up their 1st for a 3rd line player and no contender is interested in taking a risk when there are better players available. He is just not an attractive asset. I think the Canucks need to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think his value right now especially after the injury and healthy scratches is rock bottom. His career high is 29 points, this year he is playing at a 17 point pace. He is not particularly great defensively so what does he really bring to a contender? No team in the 1-20 range is going to give up their 1st for a 3rd line player and no contender is interested in taking a risk when there are better players available. He is just not an attractive asset. I think the Canucks need to keep him. Tampa really has nothing to lose in this trade. They have an extra first round pick from the St. Louis deal, so that would be another pick in the 20-30 range. Worst case scenario, Kassian becomes a decent 3rd liner, that puts up 30-40 points a season for them. While our prospect we draft, takes 3-5 years to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Both are realistic proposals. Three picks in the top-35 in such a deep draft could set us up pretty good, without really making us much worse right now. Tampa would probably be a good match for Kassian. They have a number of players in the same age range, that worked their butts off to become solid NHL-ers. Surrounded by so many of his peers, who have accomplished so much more than him, would really put him in his place. And Brian Boyle is their only forward over 6'2 - so they could use the size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I for one am not in favour of doing any deal with Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I don't think any team dishes out a 1st round pick for Kass and I'm a supporter of his. Pretty good ideas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 if we could get connolly and a 1st/2nd for kassian and sbisa id do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALGARY! Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Edmonton deal is fair, no way anyone gives up a 15 1st for Kassian, maybe, MAYBE a 3rd at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 1st proposal was Kassian to TB for a low 2015-1st. I agree with those that have said this overvalues Kassian's present trade value, but would presently be happy with that trade from the Canucks' perspective. 2nd proposal-Markstrom to Edmonton for a switch of 2nd round picks. I think this seriously undervalues Markstrom, for the simple reason that I think the chance of getting a useful player with a late-middle 2nd round pick is only slightly less than with an early 2nd round pick. I think trading Markstrom + our 2nd for Edmonton's 2nd would be considerably worse than trading Markstrom even up for a 3rd. At least that way we'd get two chances at getting a player-our 2nd and Edmonton's 3rd-instead of just one chance with Edmonton's 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.