Junkyard Dog Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Time for another pointless proposal! Colorado gets... Hamhuis TOR 1st Toronto gets... R.O'Reilly VAN 2nd Vancouver gets... M.Rielly Flame away. EDIT: Cap wise it does not quite work for Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Dan hamhuis and a 2nd for Morgan Reilly? No thanks. There's no proof that he'll turn into half the player hamhuis is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 Dan hamhuis and a 2nd for Morgan Reilly? No thanks. There's no proof that he'll turn into half the player hamhuis is now. Rielly probably won't be anything like Hamhuis considering they play different styles. Hamhuis is also 32 years old while Rielly put up 27 points last year as a 19/20 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 So if I break it down team by team: Canucks Give - Hamhuis, 2nd Get - Rielly Leafs Give - Rielly, 1st Get - O-Reilly, 2nd Avs Give -O'Reilly Get - Hamhuis, 1st I don't like the value for any of the teams involved tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 If we're going to make trades they have to be of some help now. Benning and Linden want to compete. Whether or not we have the team to do it is questionable, but this trade hurts us more than it helps. At least in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 27, 2015 Author Share Posted January 27, 2015 So if I break it down team by team: Canucks Give - Hamhuis, 2nd Get - Rielly Leafs Give - Rielly, 1st Get - O-Reilly, 2nd Avs Give -O'Reilly Get - Hamhuis, 1st I don't like the value for any of the teams involved tbh. /shrugs If we're going to make trades they have to be of some help now. Benning and Linden want to compete. Whether or not we have the team to do it is questionable, but this trade hurts us more than it helps. At least in the short term. It hurts us more now but helps us a lot in the future. Just throwing out random pointless ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Maybe in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underrated Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I can see Hamhuis and ROR values as similar. Right now Rielly isn't worth an equal amount. I know they're all different ages and styles but even as much older the presence of Hamhuis is what a lot of teams would die for for a playoff run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015   Dan hamhuis and a 2nd for Morgan Reilly? No thanks. There's no proof that he'll turn into half the player hamhuis is now.  lol I better not catch you saying elsewhere that Kassian will be the next Bertuzzi, Lucic, etc. Because there is even less proof of that. Anyway Toronto wouldn't give up Reilly for ROR. Actually if anything I think Franson would be a great match for Colorado. Yes he's UFA, and with the money they save Colorado would have the cap to sign Franson. ROR is a year away from UFA for that reason Toronto would have to add a prospect or conditional pick to compensate Franson Conditional 1st2016 (if Franson walk, if re-signed 2nd or 3rd) vs ROR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think I'd rather cut the Canucks out of the deal altogether and go ROR for Reilly straight up. Too bad the Leafs won't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I think I'd rather cut the Canucks out of the deal altogether and go ROR for Reilly straight up. Too bad the Leafs won't do it. From an Avs fan standpoint how does Edler for ROR straight up sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf smell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 From an Avs fan standpoint how does Edler for ROR straight up sound? It breaks up our top pairing of Edler-Tanev. Easily our best pairing this year. We don't have the depth on the left side for it to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf smell Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Not to mention ROR will want more money than we'd be able to give, especially for a second line forward. Top pair D is worth more than a second line forward in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManUtd Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 From an Avs fan standpoint how does Edler for ROR straight up sound? I'd do it. I doubt Edler would waive and it sounds like Linden wants to keep him anyways so it's most likely not going to happen. I know people here want ROR but who would you even play him with? I think you would all be thoroughly disappointed in his production if you stick him with Higgins and Burrows. He's not going to carry a line offensively on his own. I mean he'll still put up ~50 points but if you want the ROR of the last 3 seasons you have to give him at least one bonafide top 6 line mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Street Band Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 In a heartbeat I'd trade Hamhuis and a 2nd for Morgan Rielly. Sure losing a 2nd pick sucks but canucks can recapture a 2nd pick for Richardson or a 3rd at minimum. Bo Horvat is taking Richardson's job next year in Vancouver. Plus you've freed up some money by shipping Hamhuis out. By the way Toronto wouldn't do that trade with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015    lol I better not catch you saying elsewhere that Kassian will be the next Bertuzzi, Lucic, etc. Because there is even less proof of that. Anyway Toronto wouldn't give up Reilly for ROR. Actually if anything I think Franson would be a great match for Colorado. Yes he's UFA, and with the money they save Colorado would have the cap to sign Franson. ROR is a year away from UFA for that reason Toronto would have to add a prospect or conditional pick to compensate Franson Conditional 1st2016 (if Franson walk, if re-signed 2nd or 3rd) vs ROR Lol I'd never say Kassian is the next Lucic, etc but I have argued against trading him on the basis that it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It MIGHT help us inn the future. There's no guarantee it will. Quite frankly, I'd rather keep Hamhuis and the 2nd than get Reilly. We're a playoff team still. Only when we're not would I consider this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Despite what some posters have indicated, I don't see a problem with values. I do see a couple of roadblocks: 1. As the OP points out it doesn't work cap-wise for Toronto-they'd have to make some other move to manage this. 2. It seems really unlikely that Hammer would waive his ntc to join the Avalanche. In the event he could be convinced to waive at all, I'd expect him to want a good situation to go to, like Garrison got to waive his ntc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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