J.I.A.H.N Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 ok, as everyone knows, I would like Benning to move some players this year, so I am going to give you some choices. 3 trades.....some will happen anyways, just thought I would give you guys a rest, and see what you thought. you have to trade A) a talent a vet C) a UFA lets see what happens....what would your trades get us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 #1. Vrbata........he is only on a 2 year deal, he is older, and he is worth more Detroit, Montreal or Florida for their 2015-1st #2. Higgins.......He just disappears offensively, but Colorado could use his defensive abilities, the offense if it comes would be a bonus To Colorado for a 2015-2nd #3. Richardson......we have so many centers, and he will walk this summer, he is worth the most Any of the top 12 teams would want him, actually the top 18 teams....my bet is if Benning puts him on the market, there is a bidding war.........very valuable to a contending team To - I don't know, but definitely a 2015-2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 1st one I picked Radim Vrbata. Hamhuis is a key part of our organization and he's such a great all around defenseman. He can be trusted and relied on all situations. Vrbata is replaceable but his goal scoring will be missed once he's gone. He has the most value out of the two as of right now but it would be bad to trade him now seeing as that we just signed 7 months ago. 2nd pick would be a no brainer, Higgins. He's easily movable with that nice looking contract for a player like him. A great third line left winger that can produce points with quality teammates and can score goals. He can be moved to a contender for a 2nd round pick easily. 3rd trade is a hard one. I have to go with Richardson. Man, if Richardy gets traded, I will be a little sad seeing as that he's such a great, underrated player and it shows how terrible we have been without him in the line-up. He's the stability of our bottom 6 and can produce a lot of points. I really want him re-signed but if it means gaining valuable assets and getting younger, Richardson has to be moved in place for younger guys like Vey, Dorsett, and Matthias. Trading him now will be a little difficult as he is a UFA but still, getting a solid 3rd round or 2nd round pick out of him is not out of the question. Vrbata- Do not trade him NOW. Maybe next year. Higgins- definitely as he is replaceable and can be replaced with guys like Jensen. I say get a decent 2nd round pick outta him. Good serviceable forward. Richardson- to a contender that wants to solidify their bottom 6, I think we can reasonably get a low 2nd rounder, a high third round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 #1. Vrbata........he is only on a 2 year deal, he is older, and he is worth more Detroit, Montreal or Florida for their 2015-1st #2. Higgins.......He just disappears offensively, but Colorado could use his defensive abilities, the offense if it comes would be a bonus To Colorado for a 2015-2nd #3. Richardson......we have so many centers, and he will walk this summer, he is worth the most Any of the top 12 teams would want him, actually the top 18 teams....my bet is if Benning puts him on the market, there is a bidding war.........very valuable to a contending team id make all thoughs trades in a heart beat plus id get rid of mattias for a 3rd hansen for a 2nd miller for a first hamhuis and kassian for pouliot and bennett weber for a 5th sbisa fir a 4th call up gaunce jensen and kenins shinkaruk and markstrom 3 first rounders 4 2nd rounders 1 3rd 2 4th rounders 2 5th rounds pouliot bennett next yrs team sedin sedin shinkaruk burrows bonino bennett triple b line jensen horvat virtanen kenins gaunce dorsett vey edler tanev pouliot bieska stanton corrado lack markstrom with 14 picks in draft wed get a ton of gems bring on the youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 ^^easy peasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Mulder Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Vrbata's going nowhere this season and if he does good luck signing any free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Street Band Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If Canucks tank again then definitely trade Vrbata. I know ppl say wait until next year to trade him but his worth is much more to most GMs because they value term so much more than a rental. Sell him while he'll be a hot commodity. He'll surely net you a 1st rounder plus and to me that's easily worth it. Canucks aren't winning the cup anytime soon so Vrbata's not in our rebuilding plans per say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_74 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 id make all thoughs trades in a heart beat plus id get rid of mattias for a 3rd hansen for a 2nd miller for a first hamhuis and kassian for pouliot and bennett weber for a 5th sbisa fir a 4th call up gaunce jensen and kenins shinkaruk and markstrom 3 first rounders 4 2nd rounders 1 3rd 2 4th rounders 2 5th rounds pouliot bennett next yrs team sedin sedin shinkaruk burrows bonino bennett triple b line jensen horvat virtanen kenins gaunce dorsett vey edler tanev pouliot bieska stanton corrado lack markstrom with 14 picks in draft wed get a ton of gems bring on the youth Then we become the next Edmonton. They are doing quite good with all their youth on their team aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Miller (teams can win with a young stud in goal/ a Chris Osgood/ Corey Crawford type, with a strong defense and a good offense; money can be spent elsewhere). He's also been unreliable at times, whereas I'd spend the $$$ on solid D-men and scorers. I don't know for the 2nd one (Juice now, but the same thing happened for Edler last season); problem is I like all three of them (Higgins is underrated and is worth his pay; Burr is still worth it with skill guys, and Juice is slowing down but with Hammer he's been money before so he might get back there when he's a pending UFA). Richie probably has the highest value so I'd trade him. All three guys are battlers but I think Richie has the highest upside again but he wouldn't be as hard to replace, seeing how we were getting him as a UFA (we've had success with Manny, him, Santo... as potential 3rd C's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Speed up the rebuild by trading a vet for a near NHL ready player instead of a draft pick. Lots of teams are in "win now" mode, and have young players that are just outside of a regular lineup spot. Gormley, Petrovich, Pulkinnen, Sproul, etc etc. Some will cost more than others, but if we've got a glut of players to trade, there should be some good young players available. This way you have a better idea of what you're getting - ie whether he still has potential at 21 or 22 instead of an 18 year old who could be a s star at 18 and a bust a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If Canucks tank again then definitely trade Vrbata. I know ppl say wait until next year to trade him but his worth is much more to most GMs because they value term so much more than a rental. Sell him while he'll be a hot commodity. He'll surely net you a 1st rounder plus and to me that's easily worth it. Canucks aren't winning the cup anytime soon so Vrbata's not in our rebuilding plans per say. tank again? We never tanked to begin with last year. we just... sucked deep. There is a difference between sucking really hard, like the Edmonton Oilers and actually trying to get to the playoffs like us, Nashville Predators, Washington Capitals, etc. We just weren't good enough and Sedins did squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Vbrata's value is probably at a career high right now thanks to the twins. Could land us a future top-4 defenceman if we package him with say Sbisa or Stanton. Benning needs to move some veteran forwards though and Higgins/Burrows need to go and be replaced by some serious talent. In the ideal world we trade Bieksa too. Ideally: OUT: Bieksa, Burrows, Higgins IN: young top-4 defenceman, young top-6 forward Throw a 2nd round pick, Kassian, Vbrata or Richardson into deals if they need, but we really have to get away from those sluggish veterans (as we're stuck with the Sedins regardless) and towards some younger skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Given those choices, I went: 1) Vrbata - brings the most in return for whomever we trade him to. HOWEVER, I would not trade any of those three unless there was either a gun to my head, or some GM making an absolutely ridiculous offer 2) Burrows - hard choice, but...we need some cap room and he has the largest cap hit of the three. None of them are doing particularly good this year, but the extra $$ moved with Burrows instead of Higgins provides enough incentive to chose him. Even though KB is having a...well lets say a less than stellar year...we are a little thin in defense depth. Once we get past Corrado and Bobby S., the rest scare me. 3) Dorsett - only, and ONLY, because he may be the most easily replaced. Matthias has great size and speed, and seems to have figured out his game this year (no not in scoring, there seems to be an general amnesia about that!). Richardson able to play multiple positions. In return - 1st round, or 2nd + next years 2nd, for Vrbata. 2nd-3rd for Burrows (depending on where the team trading for him is in the standings). Dorsett - 3rd. Hey, you picked the players, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 or we could not trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 or we could not trade. your sig goes with your comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Thing is for me, the hockey the Canucks have played this year is all over the place, strong towards the beginning, which has helped us stay artificially high, as our current play has shown. You can't be a contender and play so inconsistent, and they no where look like a team that can eek out a playoff spot, then roar to a cup....just don't see anything resembling a winner at any level....seriously, if Benning's idea was to provide a winning culture for our young guns, I honestly think he has failed so far. The younsters are watching slow sluggish hockey....classy vets, but slow, and under powered, any generally undersized. For these reasons........I would do our trading this year. Trading Vrbata, Higgins and Richardson would bring us strong picks, I am not against trading for young prospects with high upside, but we do not need under any circumstances, to receive 2nd and 3rd line prospects...for me it is all or nothing......which is why I fall back to receiving picks, because IMO, most GM's on contending teams, will only trade pieces that they know will only go so far....not first line or #1 and #2 dmen. So our best chance is to take picks....Imo, I would send Bo down next year to the AHL, and play with developing winners, for a year or two.....not saying he doesn't deserve to be here, just that he and the Canucks would be better served down in the "A" for a year, again with developing winners..... Said a lot there, but yeah...Vrbata, Higgins, and Richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agoork Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I like what Benning is doing - he got Vey earlier, and now Clendening. NHL ready young guys on deep teams. I was expecting a vet to be traded for someone like Clendening, but Benning did it with a depth prospect. Nice move Mr Benning! I'd like to see Matthias and Dorsett re-signed for next year. Keep Vrbata, Hamius. Of our bottom pairing D, I'd keep Stanton and Corrado. Would like to see Sanguinetti get a chance too. I like Burrows and Hansen and I doubt either one gets traded. Bieksa has heart, but is losing his effectiveness. Trade him to Toronto for his leadership abilities and try to get either Franson or Kadri or maybe Santorelli or Winnik from the Leafs (not sure of value and what we could actually get, but as the base for a trade, it would make a lot of sense) Any of Sbisa, Weber, Kassian, Higgins, Richardson could be traded for picks, young NHL ready players or packaged for a 2nd line winger who can score. We've got enough pieces to trade to make the next month quite interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I thought this was a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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