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The Sedins are masters of the cycle game. But we're seeing a new, disturbing cycle.

Start of the year, come out guns'a'blazing. Second half of the year, come out flat as ice. This is the second consecutive year where they've looked ready to roll for the first 30 games, and now look painfully inept. What gives?

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Teams know how to play them.

They can take advantage of teams in the beginning of the season because teams don't check as tight. As soon as teams start to tighten up they trail off.

Which is why it's crucial for us to have a good powerplay. That's where they do their most damage.

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The Sedins are masters of the cycle game. But we're seeing a new, disturbing cycle.

Start of the year, come out guns'a'blazing. Second half of the year, come out flat as ice. This is the second consecutive year where they've looked ready to roll for the first 30 games, and now look painfully inept. What gives?

It has nothing to do with that, this year we had a way easier schedule before the all star break, we are already done most of our games with Edmonton, and played many eastern teams. Now our schedule is mostly against teams they struggle against. Last season was entirely different as Henrik was playing injured for a large stretch.

Daniel had 3 shots yesterday and I didn't see them come out flat yesterday; trust me I watch them more closely then anyone.

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The Sedins are masters of the cycle game. But we're seeing a new, disturbing cycle.

Start of the year, come out guns'a'blazing. Second half of the year, come out flat as ice. This is the second consecutive year where they've looked ready to roll for the first 30 games, and now look painfully inept. What gives?

Age

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their cycle is to predictable...teams know this and have figured out how to shut it down.

split the sedins.

I wouldn't mind this, it gives more depth.

Though, they really just need to shoot the puck more.

Far too often I see them pass to a defenseman where the opposing teams goalie sees the puck all the way, or the shot gets blocked.

They're far too talented to not be shooting, especially Hank.

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Starting to remind me of the pre-2009 seasons. It's like the cycle game is all they have.

During the Art Ross days, they seemed to have more weapons to deploy. They can throw the puck back to the point and have Edler, Salo, Ehrhoff to blast it into the net. Or they have Burrows to be the net-front presence for the dirty goals and his quick shot. The twins also had Mikael Samuelsson who was the right-hand shot and was willing to put pucks to the net. Henrik and Daniel were also more willing to just bring the puck to the net themselves. Lastly.... their old bread and butter, the cycle game.

Now, it's like only cycling and the odd nice open pass to Vrbata.

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Split. Them. Again.

Burr - Hank - Vrbata (14 and 33 have proven chemistry, and 17 can snipe)

Danny - Bones - Kass (9 can feed 13 and 22 to snipe, since Danny should shoot more too)

Higgins - Richie - Vey (quality 3rd line/ potential 2nd line scoring)

Matthias - Horvat - Hansen (potential 3rd line players)

// Dorsett

Pretty good depth.

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they're getting older and every team in the league has their cycle game scouted out now so it doesn't work anymore

Teams know how to play them.

They can take advantage of teams in the beginning of the season because teams don't check as tight. As soon as teams start to tighten up they trail off.

Which is why it's crucial for us to have a good powerplay. That's where they do their most damage.

Three reasons are given above. I think two are right. At their age, the Sedins do tire more rapidly over the course of the season than younger players. Second, checking does get tighter as the season progresses as the referees allow more hooking, holding, interference, etc.

However, there should not be a scouting effect. Every team should have the Canuck cycle game scouted out at the beginning of the season. Even if changes are made that should be clear after the first few games. It should not take half a season to scout the cycle game.

However, I think we should not over-react to a small sample. This pattern occured last year. This year we are only a few games into the second half and the Canucks have played some tough opponents -- probably the best three teams in the league in Anaheim, Nashville and Tampa. Lets wait for another 10 or 15 games before assessing this pattern. My guess is that the Sedins have a much better second half than last year, although I still expect some decline from the first to the the second half.

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The Sedins are masters of the cycle game. But we're seeing a new, disturbing cycle.

Start of the year, come out guns'a'blazing. Second half of the year, come out flat as ice. This is the second consecutive year where they've looked ready to roll for the first 30 games, and now look painfully inept. What gives?

What gives?

Age my friend. Not as easy these days

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The last night's games was because we were playing a damn good team. Our defence could barely move the puck up the ice and hence, the Sedins barely entered the opposition zone. But in general, it's the age coupled with playing with sub-par teammates. No Salo, no Ehroff. Bieksa worse than before and so on.

One other thing that I noted, which might be disagreed upon, is that Vrbata and Sedins don't compliment each other as well as we had hoped. Vrbata's presence makes Sedins way too predictable, they are going to pass to him to shoot the puck. And Vrbata sometimes takes shots when he shouldn't, like by near blue line. I know he has a good shot but those shots go in once every, I don't know, 50 times? Those shots often end up killing the offence and the play going the other way, where the Sedins have to waste their energy back checking.

As the above poster suggested, either split the Sedins or put Vrbata with Bonino. Sedins can play with anybody anyways. Bonino needs a sniper. In fact, I'd like to see Jensen get called up and see the line combo that worked quite well last season of Burrows-Sedin-Jensen. We could have the top 6 of

Burrows-Sedin-Jensen

Sedin-Bonino-Vrbata

The bottom 6 would be something like,

Higgins-Richardson-Hansen (checking line)

Matthias-Horvat-Kassian/Dorsett/Vey (grind and energy)

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I agree that we need to try splitting the Sedins and Vrbata up. Their perimeter game really lacks any net front presence which makes the cycle useless. They should split the Sedins up for the Buffalo game so that the new lines can form some chemistry against a weaker placed opponent.

(not sure if Richie or Dorsett will play against Buf)

Matthias - Henrik - Vrbata

Daniel - Bones - Kassian

Hansen - Horvat - Burrows

Higgins - Vey - Jensen

Odd lines but I think they need to even the lines. Matthias has been a war horse all year and deserves a shot on the top line. just not sure if he will be too fast for his line mates. Kassian (although inconsistent) can make some unbelievable feeds to either Daniel or Bones. Horvat, Burrows, Dorsett is a great line just not sure if Dorsett will be good to go, so Hansen slots in for a pest line. Vey, Jensen and Higgins man the 4th as a wild card line that might be surprisingly talented. If Richie and Dorsett are back, they bump Jensen and Higgins to the presser and Hansen drops down to 4th.

Also, the main problem with our PP is that we can't win the starting offensive zone face off. They should put our best faceoff guy (Horvat) out there as the net front presence/faceoff man. Although no one on our team can battle in front like Bur, that faceoff is too important to lose each time.

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Vrbata is a smart player, but notnin the way Burrows was/is. He's played with big bodied space creaters in Pheonix who did the dirty work for him. He isn't capable of being the Burrows the twins need.

Ironically, neither is Burrows. That is, Burrows isn't able to be the finisher he once was. He just becomes the third cycle man when put with the Sedins, which is no good.

I say it's the lack of offense on the blue line. When your d-men aren't scoring you have to continue cycling down low and without a lethal pointman to keep opponents honest, teams can put more pressure on the Sedins.

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They are now $15MM power play specialists.

Unless the opposition is the Oilers, they not only can no longer impact a game and pick this team up when it's needed most, but they also are more and more becoming a liability in the defensive zone as well. And most disappointing to me is the number of lazy back checks and stick checks I've seen from them that have lead to opposition opportunities and goals.

Nazzy played much this same way his last couple of years here as well. But at least back then, Nazzy had the twins to replace him. We should be very concerned about what our team looks like in a couple of years and it makes it all the more important that we groom our prospects and get them ready to assume bigger roles asap.

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