86Viking Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Could bring back grabner help our top 6? He has speed and is a goal scorer. It looks like islanders aare willing to move him. On hfboards the islanders have interest in Lack. If we could acquire grabner for a reasonable price would you do it, if so what would you pay to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 No re-treads please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 wouldnt swap higgins for grabner? Gets us younger, give islanders a veteran forward with playoff experience who could help their very young forward group heading into the playoffs. PLus he should waive to go play close to home? add lack for their 3rd this year grabner provides more offense than higgins, and can still be a pker, aswell as 2nd unit pp. But i do get it about bringing back ex canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 wouldnt swap higgins for grabner? Gets us younger, give islanders a veteran forward with playoff experience who could help their very young forward group heading into the playoffs. PLus he should waive to go play close to home? add lack for their 3rd this year grabner provides more offense than higgins, and can still be a pker, aswell as 2nd unit pp. But i do get it about bringing back ex canucks Where are you getting that grabber provides more offence? They have almost the same career numbers with Higgins having 2x the sample size.. We keep Higgins in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Where are you getting that grabber provides more offence? They have almost the same career numbers with Higgins having 2x the sample size.. We keep Higgins in this instance. grabner has a 30 goals season and was on pace for close to that in the lockout year. has 6g in 17 games this year. higgins has 7g in 48games. Grabner is 4 years younger, and can fill all the voids higgins would leave. Im trying to think of ways to move out a player while getting a younger player back without losing much if any production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Grabner's got a better shot than Higgins. Skates faster than Higgins. And provides better offence on a goal-scoring starved team on the Canucks. Losing Higgins isn't a big deal as we would lose his leadership yes and his work ethic (which is replaceable) and defensive acumen (but we've got a ton of bottom six players who can fill that void). Wouldn't be bad to have Grabner back. New regime, new president, new GM, new coach. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Zero value. Please no he's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf44 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Maybe we can get Bure to come back and convince Boston to trade Neely too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 grabner has a 30 goals season and was on pace for close to that in the lockout year. has 6g in 17 games this year. higgins has 7g in 48games. Grabner is 4 years younger, and can fill all the voids higgins would leave. Im trying to think of ways to move out a player while getting a younger player back without losing much if any production. Grabner also has a higher cap hit, in particular with his contract ending next year with an increase to $5M in salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Grabner also has a higher cap hit, in particular with his contract ending next year with an increase to $5M in salary. so if he doesnt pan out hes moved next deadline. Canucks are a wealthy team they paid reinprecht over 2m to play in the ahl. They can afford his 5m salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Where are you getting that grabber provides more offence? They have almost the same career numbers with Higgins having 2x the sample size.. We keep Higgins in this instance. Zero value. Please no he's terrible. You guys clearly haven't watched him play outside of the Canucks. I have. Grabner's having 'low' numbers because he's been placed on a 'checking' role. Capuano has even put him on the PK, for his speed/tenacity, as well as the potential for SH goals. Even then, he's putting up a respectable amount of points doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Grabner and a pick for Higgins and Lack? Done. He's 27, and on a younger team will provide a good bit of secondary leadership, not to mention secondary scoring in the T6. Just gotta find a T6 RW replacement for Burrows so he can sit in the Bottom 6 and do what he's best at. Healthy Line up: Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata Grabner - Horvat - Hansen Matthias - Bonino - Burrows Kenins - Richardson - Dorsett Vey Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Grabner and a pick for Higgins and Lack? Done. He's 27, and on a younger team will provide a good bit of secondary leadership, not to mention secondary scoring in the T6. Just gotta find a T6 RW replacement for Burrows so he can sit in the Bottom 6 and do what he's best at. Healthy Line up: Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata Grabner - Horvat - Hansen Matthias - Bonino - Burrows Kenins - Richardson - Dorsett Vey Kassian If Grabner-Horvat-Hansen is the 2nd line, we'll be lucky to play 5 playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 If Grabner-Horvat-Hansen is the 2nd line, we'll be lucky to play 5 playoff games. The only question mark I see on that line is Hansen. Horvat is emerging, as a 19 year old he has been playing the last 4-5 games with an immense amount of confidence, and has set up both of Kenins' goals in the past two games. I have no doubts in my mind that Horvat can challenge for the 2C role next season. Grabner is also better than his numbers suggest, and could easily score 25+ given legit T6 minutes and PP time. Actually, I think that even Virtanen has a shot at sticking with the team next season, so if a trade were made, a 2nd line of Grabner - Horvat - Virtanen would be lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 wouldnt swap higgins for grabner? Gets us younger, give islanders a veteran forward with playoff experience who could help their very young forward group heading into the playoffs. PLus he should waive to go play close to home? add lack for their 3rd this year grabner provides more offense than higgins, and can still be a pker, aswell as 2nd unit pp. But i do get it about bringing back ex canucks I would do Lack, or Higgins, not both Grabner. Or Kassian plus a second. (hey both teams are taking on risk) My guess is he will be playing for a new contract. He has experienced a setback before and survived, but not flourished. I'm pretty sure he knows he NEEDS to up his game or he won't survive the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Grabner and a pick for Higgins and Lack? Done. He's 27, and on a younger team will provide a good bit of secondary leadership, not to mention secondary scoring in the T6. Just gotta find a T6 RW replacement for Burrows so he can sit in the Bottom 6 and do what he's best at. Healthy Line up: Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata Grabner - Horvat - Hansen Matthias - Bonino - Burrows Kenins - Richardson - Dorsett Vey Kassian Pretty sure Grabner is a RW! Try this line up; Sedin/Sedin/Vrbata Higgins/Horvat/Burrows (hella defensive line that can also score) Mathias/Bonino/Grabner Speeeeeeed! Dorsett/Richardson/Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 grabner and a 3rd for lack and higgins is a decent deal for us. Lack wont get anymore than a 3rd, maybe an ahl forward or D. higgy would help their team as he would be a veteran their to all their youngster and help them for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 so if he doesnt pan out hes moved next deadline. Canucks are a wealthy team they paid reinprecht over 2m to play in the ahl. They can afford his 5m salary ??? ever heard of the salary cap and the reinprecht deal was prior to the strict salary cap era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 grabner does not have a well rounded game lacks the defensive presence that higgins provides and his salary makes no sense for this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 so if he doesnt pan out hes moved next deadline. Canucks are a wealthy team they paid reinprecht over 2m to play in the ahl. They can afford his 5m salary But cap hit counts, and if he wants closer to his ending salary on the next deal then what do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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