2SKATES1STICK Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 wow... video from abc2 in link http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-cop-points-gun-14-yo-boy-playing-balcony-accidentally-pulls-trigger-shoots/ http://www.abc2news.com/news/breaking-news/police-off-duty-baltimore-county-officer-accidentally-shoots-14-year-old BREAKING: Cop Points Gun at 14-yo Boy Playing on a Balcony, “Accidentally” Pulls Trigger, Shoots Him By Matt Agorist on February 10, 2015 Baltimore, MD — A Baltimore County police officer shot a 14-year-old boy Monday night while moonlighting as an apartment complex security guard. Police said two security guards were working off-duty at the Woodridge apartment complex who were investigating reports of people inside apartments that were under construction. The officer who shot the teen told police that he saw someone come out on a balcony. He said he was pointing his weapon at the balcony, and it simply went off. The officer “was pointing the weapon in the direction of the balcony” when “his weapon discharged accidentally,” the department said in a statement. Either this officer is lying about what actually happened or they have never heard of one of the most important rules of firearm safety: “Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.” Police spokesman Cpl. John Wachter said he did not have an updated condition of the teen Tuesday morning. Police have not yet identified the officer or the victim. Wachter said police believe the teen had been “standing in the area of the sliding glass door for the balcony.” The officer who shot the teen was on a hill which put him slightly above eye-level with the balcony. “Due to the weather and lighting conditions, it is not likely that the officer was able to determine how old the person was or even what gender the person was,” Wachter said. The off-duty officer whose weapon “accidentally discharged,” has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation. The term “accidental discharge” in this instance is a strawman. It is highly unlikely that the officer’s weapon malfunctioned and shot off a round with no trigger pull; nor did the officer believe he was in a training environment shooting blanks and accidently fired a live round. This officer had his weapon out, with the intent to use it. If he didn’t intend to kill the boy on the balcony, then he shouldn’t have pulled the trigger. Using the term “accidental” defers the liability away from the officer. The appropriate term in this instance, if this story isn’t entirely fabricated, is negligent discharge. At the very least, the injuries sustained by this boy were negligently inflicted upon him by this officer. Had a common citizen done this exact same thing, they would be sitting in a jail cell right now. It is quite unfortunate that most people will accept this as some tragic accident, which could have been avoided had these kids simply chosen to play elsewhere. They will miss the point entirely, of a weapon being drawn by an overzealous and apparently trigger-happy officer. Reports are saying that the boy’s injuries from the bullet are not life-threatening. Hopefully he makes a full recovery. When cops ADMIT they are incompetent enough to shoot 'accidentally' into an unidentifiable target, how do they not immediately get fired? If it's not that, then the cop is lying in a police report... shouldn't that get him fired too? when cops break the law, they should get equal treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Its just wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 How about this for police negligence with firearms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 How can you believe anything written on a website dedicated to flaming the police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 How can you believe anything written on a website dedicated to flaming the police? http://www.abc2news.com/news/breaking-news/police-off-duty-baltimore-county-officer-accidentally-shoots-14-year-old does abc news baltimore meet those criteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 How about this for police negligence with firearms... omg is he actually shooting out the front windshield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianLoonie Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 omg is he actually shooting out the front windshield... Not only that, but... 1.) Rifle not steadied while being fired... 2.) ...shooting from a moving vehicle... 3.) ...at a moving vehicle... Because wearing a costume, err...uniform and badge makes your shooting defy the laws of physics! Muh government law enforcing police are allowed to be armed by the monopolistic authority of the all-powerful divine State while we unwashed masses cannot be trusted with the possession of those firesticks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 When cops ADMIT they are incompetent enough to shoot 'accidentally' into an unidentifiable target, how do they not immediately get fired? If it's not that, then the cop is lying in a police report... shouldn't that get him fired too? when cops break the law, they should get equal treatment. I imagine this is a rare occurrence. I'm pretty sure cops are trained well how to use and respect a firearm. Anyways, cops that abuse their power definitely should be held accountable. Still, one has to wonder how much you can punish someone for being an idiot on duty. Although, he has responsibilities while having a gun so I think full punishment would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Strangelove Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I imagine this is a rare occurrence. I'm pretty sure cops are trained well how to use and respect a firearm. Anyways, cops that abuse their power definitely should be held accountable. Still, one has to wonder how much you can punish someone for being an idiot on duty. Although, he has responsibilities while having a gun so I think full punishment would be fine. As someone who has worked in a branch of law enforcement for going on 10 years now I agree fully with this in fact I think given that the individual in question should have a fair amount of training including how to handle a handgun he should be dealt with even more harshly than the average individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Basic firearms training teaches you not to draw unless you intend to fire. And you keep your finger off the trigger until you intend to fire. This is why I roll my eyes when Americans get all irate on firearms that have safeties, loaded chamber indicators, and other safety devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocivus Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Simply keeping your booger hook off the bang switch would have prevented this. That cop shooting through his windshield while in a chase... What an IDIOT! Most, if not all, departments have a rule about shooting from or at a moving vehicle. This dude thinks he's Rambo. He should be tarred, feathered, slapped repeatedly with a bamboo stick in front of his mother, fired and thrown in prison for reckless endangerment. Here's a link to the story and the full 7 minute video if anyone is interested. http://controversialtimes.com/news/cop-opens-fire-with-ar-15-while-driving-during-high-speed-chase-raw-video/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I expect he'll get some sort of punishment. He can't just walk away with shooting a presumed innocent 14 year old yet follow up with an excuse that he "accidentally pulled the trigger". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Cops need guns, but they also need to be held accountable for their actions. The police in this country (USA) are getting away with more and more everyday. If you give human beings power over others and weapons, you get these kind of things. It's going to become more commonplace until law enforcement is held to a higher standard. The few bad apples need to be thrown away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 There's a lot of jumping the gun here (pun intended). The officer was actually working a 2nd job as an armed security guard. He had his gun out because they were investigating sounds coming from a vacant apartment under construction. Here's a crazy idea: instead of jumping all over police officers every time one of them does something wrong, and painting them with all the same brush, how about rallying for better working conditions and wages for them? Then they probably won't be so frickin' exhausted from having to work two jobs that they can't handle their gun properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I expect he'll get some sort of punishment. He can't just walk away with shooting a presumed innocent 14 year old yet follow up with an excuse that he "accidentally pulled the trigger". The kid wasn't innocent he was tresspassing on a construction site. If he isn't there this doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Cops need guns, but they also need to be held accountable for their actions. The police in this country (USA) are getting away with more and more everyday. If you give human beings power over others and weapons, you get these kind of things. It's going to become more commonplace until law enforcement is held to a higher standard. The few bad apples need to be thrown away. Well said. I don't know what the requirements are for the hiring of law enforcement in the various jurisdictions in the US, but maybe there should be some sort of nation wide standard. There's a lot of jumping the gun here (pun intended). The officer was actually working a 2nd job as an armed security guard. He had his gun out because they were investigating sounds coming from a vacant apartment under construction. Here's a crazy idea: instead of jumping all over police officers every time one of them does something wrong, and painting them with all the same brush, how about rallying for better working conditions and wages for them? Then they probably won't be so frickin' exhausted from having to work two jobs that they can't handle their gun properly? Or maybe people shouldn't be able to work more than a certain amount of hours per day at a job that requires them to carry a firearm. Truck drivers get shut down after a certain amount of time. You'd think that law enforcement would at least be in step with the trucking industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 There's a lot of jumping the gun here (pun intended). The officer was actually working a 2nd job as an armed security guard. He had his gun out because they were investigating sounds coming from a vacant apartment under construction. Here's a crazy idea: instead of jumping all over police officers every time one of them does something wrong, and painting them with all the same brush, how about rallying for better working conditions and wages for them? Then they probably won't be so frickin' exhausted from having to work two jobs that they can't handle their gun properly? This post is the first time I've ever heard anyone on either side of the border suggest cops are underpaid. An equally crazy idea would be to... check how much police officers get paid in Maryland, before suggesting with such fervor they're underpaid and exhausted working two jobs out of necessity. Upon successful completion of the academy the salary will increase to $46,000.00, salary listing does not include shift differential, uniform allowance or overtime. https://www.mdsp.org/Careers/StateTrooper/SalaryBenefits.aspx Yeah, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 This post is the first time I've ever heard anyone on either side of the border suggest cops are underpaid. An equally crazy idea would be to... check how much police officers get paid in Maryland, before suggesting with such fervor they're underpaid and exhausted working two jobs out of necessity. https://www.mdsp.org/Careers/StateTrooper/SalaryBenefits.aspx Yeah, not even close. Um, seriously? You think a $46,000 median salary is enough compensation for dealing with the risks and responsibilities of being a police officer? I'm making that much right now, drinking a coffee, sitting in a safe office, and arguing on CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The kid wasn't innocent he was tresspassing on a construction site. If he isn't there this doesn't happen. Don't blame the kid xD accidentally shooting someone is far worse than trespassing. A lot of people trespass even if it isn't right it's often with innocent intent. For example before I could drive I would walk places and I would hop the rock wall of a graveyard and cut across it so I didn't have to walk on a road with no sidewalk. I trespassed and got yelled at a few times. I also used to hang out in a closed park at night with an ex on the swings. Occasionally a cop may pass by and just tell us we can't stay there. Sometimes people go into areas including construction areas for photography reasons etc. The whole idea of just blasting someone who trespasses and saying well their fault for trespassing seems cold hearted xD If the kid was doing anything wrong he should be punished accordingly and the officer should be punished accordingly for his inability to operate a firearm properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedalus Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Um, seriously? You think a $46,000 median salary is enough compensation for dealing with the risks and responsibilities of being a police officer? I'm making that much right now, drinking a coffee, sitting in a safe office, and arguing on CDC. I'm not sure how it works in Maryland, but in Los Angeles (California), many cops are ex-military, air force, navy, etc., people. I've met one and heard that it is common for them to get into the police force for only 10 years then retire with a very, very, very handsome retirement plan, which is one reason some people down here (in LA) do not like them. Not everyone works in the most dangerous part of the city, and if you do, you definitely get compensated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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