Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 As we know Anaheim is rich in prospects and is in a win now mode. There goaltending situation with Anderson injured and Gibson having only a few games NHL experience and Bryz being their most experienced tender. I think its safe to say they would have interest in Miller. They have over 5 million in cap space so they would be able to handle Millers contract without having to move much on their existing roster. There are many options or combinations to make this work targets I would see are. Emerson Etem + Late pick Willy D connection Speedy RW 22yo goal scorer or John Gibson + Late pick Solid goalie prospect for our factory. or 1st rnd pick likely between 25-30 or many other options what would you target? Would Shea Theodore, Silferberg, Nick Ritchie be out of the question? I think the opportunity to make a deal is there but for what I admit I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 We couldn't get any of that quality of player for Kesler, so doubt we'd be able to for a 34 year old goalie who's been mediocre this season overall. But hey, maybe a first round pick and good propect would be appealing. Then JB doesn't have to worry about losing Eddy. Bring up Markstrom as the back-up and everybody wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Isn't Anaheim scary enough already? Do we really want to send them Miller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 This only happens if this team goes on a losing streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Miller had high value when Sabres dealt him to the BLues, and he faltered. He has been inconsistent this year, which will scare teams off. He won't get a high return if not lower than what he was dealt to the Blues for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Anaheim didn't want him in the off-season (for "free") before he signed with Vancouver, so there's no reason that they would want to give anything up for him now. He fell flat in St. Louis and he isn't exactly tearing up the ice in Vancouver. The Sabres used all of his good years and traded him away at the exact right time. Chalk one up for Tim Murray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drive-By Body Pierce Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The Ducks have goaltending depth, and a nice cushion atop the Pacific division. It gives them a great opportunity to give Gibson some NHL starts. And with the injury not being viewed as too terribly bad, it would be a very rash, knee-jerk decision for Bob Murray to go out and acquire a 6M per year contract for the next 2 seasons as a short term band aid. I don't see the Ducks organization having any interest in such a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Keeping Miller will be a great way to transition Lack into a starting role. If Lack doesn't seem to be able to make the transition, trade Lack and see if Markstrom can fit the bill. Last year, Lack wore down and that hurt his development IMO. Having a vet who can play 40+ games next year will help Lack's transition into a starter. 2014-15: 55-27; 2015-16: 45-37; 2016-17: 32-50 seems like a good division of games played to bring Lack along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron88188 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Yes, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 has miller been really that bad for us he has 25 wins thats nothing to sneeze at your all a bunch of clueless fans in all reality luongo schneider miller lack have never been the problem its always been a mediocre defense. tanev and hamhuis instill no fear in teams they really are as soft as butter, bieska and sbisa are an adventure giving to many freebies to teams edler corrado are steady. stanton and weber are 8th string dmen at least we have clendenning to help now. If tanev wants more than 4 id send him packing and get a young winger thats cheap and can score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I don't think Anaheim is realistic - if I'm them, I'm not paying a premium to stick Miller in the way of Anderson and Gibson. I think San Jose is more probable - Niemi is a UFA and imo would be part of an ideal return for Miller - giving us a solid veteran to tandem with Lack to the season's end - and a future. SJ has 4.7 million in cap, and would be sending 4 back in Niemi. Miller to SJ for Niemi, 1st/prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 miller to ducks if they give us a 2nd and 3rd rounder id rather go with young swedes and have six mill freed up for free agent dmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 no way sharks give us a first and niemi maybe a 3rd and niemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Keeping Miller will be a great way to transition Lack into a starting role. If Lack doesn't seem to be able to make the transition, trade Lack and see if Markstrom can fit the bill. Last year, Lack wore down and that hurt his development IMO. Having a vet who can play 40+ games next year will help Lack's transition into a starter. 2014-15: 55-27; 2015-16: 45-37; 2016-17: 32-50 seems like a good division of games played to bring Lack along. All due respect I wouldn't base much off of last year. Torts ran the entire ship aground. I feel pretty confident Markstrom and Lack could split the starts without controversy and handle the workload. As it stands were not cup contenders we could limp in or we could build for the future. To me that means getting our guys in games and bringing them along not letting guys like Lack sit on the bench and letting Markstrom walk in the offseason because we have an over paid 34yearold who wants to play every single game. If we can flip said 34 yearold for a 1st or a prospect who is nhl ready with upside to me its an automatic. In my mind the untouchables on this team are. the Sedins,Edler,1 of Ham Juice, Burr, Horvat, Virtanen, 2 of Lack/Markstrom/Demko, Hunter, McCann maybe Cassels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I don't think Anaheim is realistic - if I'm them, I'm not paying a premium to stick Miller in the way of Anderson and Gibson. I think San Jose is more probable - Niemi is a UFA and imo would be part of an ideal return for Miller - giving us a solid veteran to tandem with Lack to the season's end - and a future. SJ has 4.7 million in cap, and would be sending 4 back in Niemi. Miller to SJ for Niemi, 1st/prospect Even that's a stretch but with the cap staying low I don't see a lot of contenders near the ceiling having much interest. We don't really need Niemi, but if we can get a good pick and/or prospect along with him then I wouldn't be afraid at all of letting him go to free agency (or trading him just before for a later round pick). That'd solve much of the goaltending question and give us much more cap flexibility come summer time when there could be a number of good value add UFAs that would otherwise be unavailable. After checking up more on San Jose's current situation, they have a tonne of RFAs to sign this summer. Of their 17 non-roster players listed on NHLNumbers, 13 are RFAs and 9 of those need new deals this summer. They aren't exactly going to have to sign them all to big raises or anything, but that's a very large percentage of the limited players they do have on contracts. They could use a larger prospect pool perhaps as a result, and we could stand to upgrade on the top end of ours. I'm not sure such a deal would get us their 1st or someone like Tennyson, but it'd be worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinphase Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Who were the other teams that wanted Miller before he signed here? Anyways, I'm in the camp of giving Lack and Markstrom a shot and parting ways with Miller. I actually think the best place for him will be back in Buffalo. He's been successful there, the team looks like it could breakout in 1 - 3 seasons and their current goalies don't look ready for a long campaign. Since we got Miller for free I'd be willing to let him go for a 2nd pick and a prospect, or a first round pick in either 2015 or 2016. The real loss to our team will be to let Lack and Markstrom go without developing them to their full potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 has miller been really that bad for us he has 25 wins thats nothing to sneeze at your all a bunch of clueless fans in all reality luongo schneider miller lack have never been the problem its always been a mediocre defense. tanev and hamhuis instill no fear in teams they really are as soft as butter, bieska and sbisa are an adventure giving to many freebies to teams edler corrado are steady. stanton and weber are 8th string dmen at least we have clendenning to help now. If tanev wants more than 4 id send him packing and get a young winger thats cheap and can score Miller has been average. There's nothing wrong with that. He's just not worth what he was even 1 year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 he would go to the ducks in a heartbeat, so If they want him and are willing to offer up anything half decent, i'll take it. The price would probably be a 2nd and a mid-level prospect. The one place we could get lucky is Etem, the club is not thrilled with him right now, it might be possible for JB to snag him, simply because the Ducks may want to divorce themselves of any "Seguinish" type attitudes. Wouldn't be straight up, but something involving those two may be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 has miller been really that bad for us he has 25 wins thats nothing to sneeze at your all a bunch of clueless fans in all reality luongo schneider miller lack have never been the problem its always been a mediocre defense. tanev and hamhuis instill no fear in teams they really are as soft as butter, bieska and sbisa are an adventure giving to many freebies to teams edler corrado are steady. stanton and weber are 8th string dmen at least we have clendenning to help now. If tanev wants more than 4 id send him packing and get a young winger thats cheap and can score By calling Tanev and Hamhuis soft, you mean they don't throw enough body checks? Also, you say they don't instill fear, but you act as if Corrado does? Or are you suggesting he's more steady than Tanev or Hamhuis? Miller's save percentage depends a lot on how well his defenders (and forwards too) defend. The ability to defend≠ability to spread "fear", so realistically they can't be blamed for Miller's stats, since they are both good at defending. Crease clearing definitely helps, but it's only one aspect of defending as a defenseman. The main criticism at this point with Hamhuis is speed, which is due to missing a big chunk of the season and aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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