Stormriders Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. With all the problems our power-play has had this year, and in particular the 2nd unit, can anyone provide any reasonable explanation of why Higgins and Dorsett are on it? I like both of them for the roles they play, particularly Dorsett, but they are not the strongest offensive threats we can put out there. Yes they both hustle and work hard and are good defensively, but the power-play is about production. Higgins, in the last 30 games since November 30th, has a total of two goals, and only two points on the power-play the entire year. Dorsett has zero points on the power-play. Tonight of all nights, when you have two guys playing particularly well in Matthias and Kassian, who had a combine 5 points out of a team total of 12, they should have been given a chance. Kassian’s two assists tonight were both great setups and he was full credit for his play. Also, Bo has been hot lately and earned his opportunity as well. And yes Bo got a little time on it tonight but only because Hank was getting fixed up after the high stick. Hey, maybe even send out the three of them together, …. that if nothing else would be interesting to see what they could produce. AND, wouldn’t that send the right message of being rewarded for good play. It is beyond reason that Willy continues to keep the same players on the power-play despite how very poor production has been. It is truly the definition of insanity, playing the same players night after night and expecting different results. It is so frustrating to watch a coach who is supposed to make adjustments from game to game, stick with the same players when it clearly is not working. I think this is a sign of poor coaching, and smacks of both someone who is stubborn and afraid to take a few risks by trying something new. Maybe you see some logic in not making changes in the power-play, but I sure don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbark95 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 One of the biggest problems with the PP is that we cant win the opening draw and have to start from our own end. I cannot fathom why our best faceoff man does not get PP time unless hank takes a stick to the eye. Also Willie said on the post game interview it takes a long time for him to change things up. Really? The revolving door of healthy scratches, Burrows surfing his way through the lines and complete jumble has occurred to our 5 on 5 forwards, but hes so resistant to changing the PP makeup. Nine times out of ten we cant prevent the clearing attempt because we have one man at the point. IT IS NOT WORKING. Time to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNaslund?? Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 That's exactly what I said in a post I made that's similar to what you're saying. Why not get Bo some more PP time, I think he's earned it. Willie needs to change up that second unit and I agree 100%. It would also probably give Bo more confidence and would give him more time to shoot and pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I wonder if W.D. has had instructions given by higher-ups, it's the only sane reason I can fathom for not changing things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Desjardins outlined one of his own big weaknesses as a coach in his post game. He takes a long time to change his mind about things like that. If he has not seen in half a season that our PP is tremendously ineffective at not only generating offense but even keeping momentum then he must be blind. Matthias-Horvat-Kassian Clendening-Sbisa/Weber Why the hell not try this for a half dozen games? Can they really be any worse than what we are seeing? Higgins, Hamhuis, Dorsett etc. have shown next to nothing on the PP. Let them stabilize the suddenly far more shaky PK for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 One of the biggest problems with the PP is that we cant win the opening draw and have to start from our own end. I cannot fathom why our best faceoff man does not get PP time unless hank takes a stick to the eye. Also Willie said on the post game interview it takes a long time for him to change things up. Really? The revolving door of healthy scratches, Burrows surfing his way through the lines and complete jumble has occurred to our 5 on 5 forwards, but hes so resistant to changing the PP makeup. Nine times out of ten we cant prevent the clearing attempt because we have one man at the point. IT IS NOT WORKING. Time to change. I think WD's honest and dead on, you point out burr who has been one of our best forwards for years outside of and injury filled season and players that weren't key players that were playing without intensity. The jumble of 5/5 is mostly due to injury. WD has done what most Canucks fans were yelling for for years, he's been reluctant to shuffle lines and given lines time to develop and gel together. The PP looks too slow and deliberate and he's been giving to time to find its legs but it hasn't and he's apparently ready to make some changes, I'd rather that then mix it up every few games if we don't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Desjardins outlined one of his own big weaknesses as a coach in his post game. He takes a long time to change his mind about things like that. If he has not seen in half a season that our PP is tremendously ineffective at not only generating offense but even keeping momentum then he must be blind. Matthias-Horvat-Kassian Clendening-Sbisa/Weber Why the hell not try this for a half dozen games? Can they really be any worse than what we are seeing? Higgins, Hamhuis, Dorsett etc. have shown next to nothing on the PP. Let them stabilize the suddenly far more shaky PK for awhile. Lmao.... I just talked about how it's a strong point and you a weak point at the same time. Just goes to show there it two sides to every story. There is a war between the rich and poor, a war between the man and the woman. There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The PP looks too slow and deliberate and he's been giving to time to find its legs but it hasn't and he's apparently ready to make some changes, I'd rather that then mix it up every few games if we don't score. It's been more than half a season of producing next to nothing and looking bad doing it. I would agree that change every few games is reactionary and counter productive. But no change in such a long period of time just looks like favoritism and fear to not take a chance on trying something new or giving guys who are earning it a chance. It's a fine line and it has been long enough now that WD needs to give some others a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Lmao.... I just talked about how it's a strong point and you a weak point at the same time. Just goes to show there it two sides to every story. There is a war between the rich and poor, a war between the man and the woman. There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't. Read my point above..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's been more than half a season of producing next to nothing and looking bad doing it. I would agree that change every few games is reactionary and counter productive. But no change in such a long period of time just looks like favoritism and fear to not take a chance on trying something new or giving guys who are earning it a chance. It's a fine line and it has been long enough now that WD needs to give some others a chance. No I agree with you, although I appreciate why he's giving then the time he has. I also appreciate that he man enough to step up and admit he's been to patient. I just find if funny we see things so opposite a lot of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 oh look you defined insanity by confusing a famous quote with an actual definition and not attributing the quote to its author. this is sure to be well researched and refreshing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Sometimes I wish we'd take coincidentals so we can stop watching our PP lose momentum for us. Although there are times where the PP works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 i wonder where we would be had we even capitalized on a fraction more of our PP's this year. needs work big time...maybe a new PP coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Why does everyone love that quote so damn much? It's not like it's technically true lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 One of the biggest problems with the PP is that we cant win the opening draw and have to start from our own end. I cannot fathom why our best faceoff man does not get PP time unless hank takes a stick to the eye. Also Willie said on the post game interview it takes a long time for him to change things up. Really? The revolving door of healthy scratches, Burrows surfing his way through the lines and complete jumble has occurred to our 5 on 5 forwards, but hes so resistant to changing the PP makeup. Nine times out of ten we cant prevent the clearing attempt because we have one man at the point. IT IS NOT WORKING. Time to change. Yeah losing faceoffs and killing 20 seconds off the clock is really frustrating to see. Henrik was at least a 50% faceoff man, what happened? Also, I think I would try putting Vey back on the first PP unit and go with Burrows + H. Sedin + Vey up front and D. Sedin + RHD (Clendening) on D as the 1st PP unit. For the second PP unit, like OP suggested, I would try Matthias-Bo-Kassian and Edler + Vrbata on D. Putting Edler and Vrbata on the second unit would strengthen the 2nd unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Too many passers, no one set up as the shooter. Edler and Vbrata are our inly real shooters, but they're never set up and most of the time elect to pasd anyway. We need Vbrata on the left boards (right hand shot) instead of right point, Edler on the right point and Daniel on the left point with Henrik on the right half boards and Burrows/Kassian/Matthias in the crease. If Henrik needs to play catch with anyone he should do so with Efler, otherwise leave him to feed the crease man or give it to Edler and work it for a shot. Henrik can try a cross seam pass to Vbrata for a one timer, or the teins can feed Edler for a point shot. Enough of this perimeter passing, the powerplay needs to work a heavy one timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'm not worried...They're evaluating. Lidster's got this. Even if it all doesn't come together this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The PP is pretty brutal indeed. Boston had more shots than Vancouver, especially after Vancouver had 4 mins on the PP. 1 shot on the PP. Just unacceptable. The cute little passes are nice to watch but we've been scouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Higgins, Hamhuis, Dorsett etc. have shown next to nothing on the PP. Let them stabilize the suddenly far more shaky PK for awhile. The PK is .5% off of the third best PK in the league so Hamhuis and Higgins do stabilize one of the best PK's in the league. Dorsett has next to no PP time and is but a fringe PK contributor. Slamming the coach because your beloved favourite player has a couple of good games is as productive as our PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Desjardins outlined one of his own big weaknesses as a coach in his post game. If he has not seen in half a season that our PP is tremendously ineffective at not only generating offense but even keeping momentum then he must be blind. Matthias-Horvat-Kassian BEST IDEA Put Horvat, the Big Guy(Kassian) and Matthias on PP2 and be done with it. Jason Botchford Today's 'White Towel' edition of the Province. http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/02/13/kk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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