TheRussianRocket. Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Here's how our next year lineup (barring any trades to players signed after this year) looks like: Sedin - Sedin - Burrows XXXX - Bonino - Vrbata Higgins - Horvat - Kassian XXXX - XXXX - Hansen Edler - Tanev (assuming re-signing Tanev is a no brainer) Hamhuis - Bieksa XXXX - XXXX Miller Lack And we will have the following players either as RFA's, UFA's, or prospects battling for roster spots: Dorsett (UFA) Matthias (UFA) Richardson (UFA) Biega (UFA) Sanguinetti (UFA) Vey (RFA) Kenins (RFA) McMillan (RFA) Sbisa (RFA) Stanton (RFA) Clendening (RFA) Corrado (RFA) Weber (RFA) Markstrom (RFA) Virtanen (prospect) Gaunce (prospect) Shinkaruk (prospect) Jensen (prospect) ...and you also can't forget about free agents who we might sign as well. As you can see, there are a lot of bodies but not many spots to be filled. How will JB go about his business - With the emergence of Bo and his offensive game taking off, I think it's safe to say Richardson won't be here next year as Bo will take over 3C duties, possibly even 2C. Love Richie but it's just the nature of the business side of things. JB can either trade him at the deadline or keep him and let him walk in the offseason. - Dorsett and Matthias are both vital components to this team. I would love both to be here after next year but have a gut feeling only 1 will. If both are, there's only 1 remaining forward spot to be filled and it would make it tough for prospects to get a shot. I personally would take Matthias just because he can play centre and wing. Dorsett is a great character guy and I'd simply let him walk at seasons end - he fully deserves not to be traded. Or maybe Dorsett is bought back as the 13th forward. - Vey will in all likelihood be extended. Has shown potential as an offensive forward and is young. - One of Lack/Markstrom will be traded. - One of Hansen/Higgins could possibly be dealt to open up more room on the roster and free up cap space. Maybe even both gone to bring in a top 6 forward. - Stanton/Sbisa/Clendening/Sanguinetti/Weber/Biega, I see 4 of the 6 being kept, preferably the first 4. Weber and Biega do seem like the odd men out and Biega can probably sign a 2way deal and be called up when needed. - Kenins has cemented his spot on the 4th line next year. He should be signed. McMillan should be a 2way signing giving us roster flexibility. - everyone else is up in the air and has a fair shot at the roster. Taking all that into assumption, this is a rough outline of the roster we can see heading into the offseason: Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Vey - Bonino - Vrbata Matthias - Horvat - Kassian Kenins - XXXX - Higgins/Hansen/XXXX XXXX/Dorsett Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Clendening Corrado, Stanton Miller Lack/Markstrom 4C can be Gaunce or a free agent. Extra forward can be a prospect or another free agent or Dorsett. Defense seems like it will be familiar to this years. Both Higgins/Hansen can be gone also. If so, forward group will begin to look different from years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Great! Another off-season thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I look at RFA and UFA numbers and ask simply How the hell do people think we can maintain this roster still sign these guys and still somehow play the UFA market. Unless we jettison some contracts in Higgins Hansen Burrows Bieksa etc we ain't playing UFA ball and most likely will be waving some players goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Great! Another off-season thread.Yes, but it's TheRussianRocket's off-season thread. Not sure why a couple UFA's are locked in. That may not happen. Both Matthias and Dorsett will be after raises and we still have a bit of a cap crunch, with prospects who will need icetime as well. There will be a lot of turnover I think. All we can do is wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFan2323 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 XXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Vey - Bonino - Vrbata Matthias - Horvat - Kassian Kenins - XXXX - Higgins/Hansen/XXXX XXXX/Dorsett Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Clendening Corrado, Stanton Miller Lack/Markstrom I predict the 3 bolded above players will play on a line together with retro 80's jerseys, smashing existing Canucks scoring records, forever to be known as the "flying V line". Or maybe they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Impersonator Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 My guess would be one of Jensen / Shink / Virtannen makes the team next season to continue the injection of some youth on the team. It's worked well with Bo this season and I am imagine them trying to take a similar path with one of the 3 mentioned above next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Trying to predict the future is an exercise in futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Trying to predict the future is an exercise in futility. I prefer predicting the past. I predict the Canucks made it to the Stanley Cup Finals in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'd like to see: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Vey/Horvat/Vrbata Matthias/Bonino/Kassian Virtanen/Gaunce/Dorsett Edler/Tanev Hamuis/Clendenning Sbisa/Bieksa Miller Lack Continuation of the youth movement, allows us to free up some big cap space to make any necessary moves to solidify the roster, but allows us to move out some big veteran contracts for some great picks in the upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The OP sets things out pretty well. However, I doubt if the proposed line-up will fit under next year's cap. The Canucks have very little room to work with and most of that room (maybe all of it) will go to Tanev. If the RFAs and UFAs want raises (as they will) they won't all fit. The really expensive guys have NTCs and are not going anywhere for one reason or another. The guys could be moved and are kind of expensive given their spot in the proposed line-up include: Sbisa Kassian Higgins Or maybe Tanev gets traded if he will not agree to a cap friendly deal (although I think that is very unlikely as he probably goes to arbitration if a deal cannot be reached). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronning4center Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Great! Another off-season thread. DUDE...don't be such a downer....roll with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'd like to see: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Vey/Horvat/Vrbata Matthias/Bonino/Kassian Virtanen/Gaunce/Dorsett Edler/Tanev Hamuis/Clendenning Sbisa/Bieksa Miller Lack Continuation of the youth movement, allows us to free up some big cap space to make any necessary moves to solidify the roster, but allows us to move out some big veteran contracts for some great picks in the upcoming draft. Yep. I for one love Higgins and Hansen but really want them/or at least one gone. As much of an effort they bring and help the team, they're holding the roster back from progressing and getting youth in there. Contracts are fair priced but having them for a few more years, I'd rather not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Vey - Bonino - Vrbata Matthias - Horvat - Kassian Kenins - XXXX - Higgins/Hansen/XXXX XXXX/Dorsett Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Bieksa Sbisa - Clendening Corrado, Stanton Miller Lack/Markstrom Let's see how Kenins does for a few dozen games more (2 anyway) he has been good but really lucky as well. Higgins has to go. Bieksa should go and you have one too many players on that roster including all the XXXs. Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Vey - Bonino - Vrbata Gaunce or Virtanen- Horvat - Kassian Dorsett - Mathias - Hansen Kenins Edler - Tanev Hamhuis - Clendening Sbisa - Corrado Biega, Stanton Miller Lack/Markstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I know they have NTC but I think Bieksa and Burrows and their cap hits need to be moved (along with Higgins) to have any hope of icing a competitive team and offering the younger players room to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'd like to see: Sedin/Sedin/Burrows Vey/Horvat/Vrbata Matthias/Bonino/Kassian Virtanen/Gaunce/Dorsett Edler/Tanev Hamuis/Clendenning Sbisa/Bieksa Miller Lack Continuation of the youth movement, allows us to free up some big cap space to make any necessary moves to solidify the roster, but allows us to move out some big veteran contracts for some great picks in the upcoming draft. I like it except for the D. third pairing...sorry but Kevin will only make Sbisa more error prone (he was really bad but getting much better lately) so no KB unless it's with Tanev or Corrado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Dorsett (UFA) - It would be stupid to not bring him back, no brainer Matthias (UFA) - Shown that he can play center effectively, he has shown that he can replace Richardson. Richardson (UFA) - Can be let go, as he can be replaced from within by either Matthias or Horvat. Biega (UFA) - As long as he wants to remain with us, why not? Sanguinetti (UFA) - Same as Biega. Vey (RFA) - No brainer. Kenins (RFA) - No brainer McMillan (RFA) - Haven't seen him play, so can't say anything Sbisa (RFA) - Still has potential to improve, bring him back. Stanton (RFA) - Can be let go, Corrado can replace him. Clendening (RFA) - Offensive upside and young. No brainer. Corrado (RFA) - No brainer. Weber (RFA) - Depth defender; I would prefer to bring him back. Markstrom (RFA) - If Lack is traded, bring him back, if Lack is kept, trade him. Virtanen (prospect) - Give him every chance to make the team like we did to Horvat, but chances are, he won't make it. Gaunce (prospect) - Start in the AHL, may get a call up or two if he improves. Shinkaruk (prospect) - Same as Gaunce. Jensen (prospect) - I think he starts on the Canucks. Next year will be a make or break year before some of the new prospects pass him on the depth chart. In summary, the players to start on the team next season Dorsett, Matthias, Vey, Kenins, Sbisa, Clendening, Corrado, Weber, and Jensen And may keep Virtanen, MacMillan and Markstrom. Top 6: Sedin, Sedin, Burrows, Bonino, Vrbata, Vey ~ 26 million Bottom 6: Matthias, Dorsett, Kassian, Hansen, Horvat, Kenins ~ 10 million Jensen, McMillan, Virtanen (9 games to steal someone's job) ~ 3 million Total ~ 39 million Defence: Edler-Tanev ~ 9.5 million Hamhuis-Bieksa ~ 9 million Sbisa-Clendening ~ 4 million Corrado, Weber ~ 2 million Total ~ 24.5 million Goalies: Miller, Lack/Markstrom ~ 8.5 million This give you 70+ million in salary, which would exceed the cap. As someone posted above, either Burrows or Bieksa would have to be traded. It's a tough decision, but I would ultimately trade Bieksa. Burrows is needed to keep the Sedins going and we all know how hard it is to find the linemate for the Sedins. Corrado can hopefully replace Bieksa. We could also trade Hansen or Kassian but you only gain about 2 million dollars in cap space so I'm not sure if there is any merit to trading those two given that 1) Hansen is the only speedy guy on the team and 2) Kassian still has upside and hie value is too low at the moment. It doesn't look like we will be able to ice a cup contending team, but barring any major declines (like Sedins becoming 30-50 point players) and injuries, a team that can still compete for the playoffs (top 16 in the league). Coupled with significant progress in development in players such as Vey, Horvat, Corrado, Jensen, and Kassian, the above lineup may become a team that can reach the second round of the playoffs (top 8 in the league). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I'm not comfortable with that defence next year. No bloody way. That's the defence a bubble team,nit a division or conference contender. Please sign christian Ehrhoff or mike green if possible. If not expect a nail biting playoff hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 sedin sedin vrbata burrows bonino higgins hansen horvat kassian kenins mattias richardson dorsett vey macmillan virtanen gaunce shinkaruk jensen 19 forwards that could play next yr i feel virtanen will get 9 game audition then world juniors then chl for more seasoning he will be a full time nhl player in 2016-17 im afraid hansen, higgins, richardson will be gone jensen might be traded as well because gaunce and shinkaruk will come over him on depth chart. 7 of 19 will not be on team excluding trades in at deadline or draft defense edler sbisa corrado clendening bieska hamhuis should be back tanev wants to much$$$ he could be traded for a top six forward biega sang can both be minor league call ups weber stanton can be gone for picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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