Jagorim Jarg Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I have criticized others for posting GM suggestions and this isn't one. I wanted to see what other fans had to say about what the pros and cons would be if the team brought in Jagr for the end of the year, with the idea he might play another year. This isn't a 'I like this and don't like that player and I wanna see him gone' thread. Does adding Jagr improve this team? I know the current situation is one of severe depth trouble on D due to injuries. I am thinking more about next year than this one, but there are a few reasons I think it would make sense to do it right now instead of waiting to see what he'll want to do in the summer. He says he plans to keep playing if he can make a lineup next year. If you were building the lineup would you split the Sedins to play with both Vrbata and Jagr or would you put Jagr on the second line to play with BO HORVAT next year..? Pros: -Point production and offensive IQ -Size and reach, ability to extend possession times -Jagr on the powerplay with or without the Sedins -A great example for younger guys to observe and lean from -Seems to have a good attitude and is familiar with frequent media interface Cons: -Age, though the number means little he won't last forever -Current cap hit, though the salary is low -Speed, he is still mobile but won't have the extra gear younger guys have but this is already a problem for a few Canucks http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=753655&navid=nhl:topheads "I think some teams worry about when I go there I want to be on the first power play, I want to be on the first line; it's not true," Jagr said. "I'm here on the third line, and I play 15 minutes, sometimes I don't get on the power play, and I'm happy. Not happy, but I do my job. I try to do it the best. I think sometimes the teams or the coaches, they think, he always plays on the outside. I know where's my strength. I like to play offensive zone on the boards. I still feel like I'm strong enough to beat anybody, at least hold that puck. If it's true or not, I still believe in it. Maybe I'm not going to beat that guy one-on-one like I used to, but I can still make a play from that corner from the cycle. That's my strength. And in the playoffs that's the way you play. I don't have to play 40 minutes." "What we're saying about, and I agree, is that he's in phenomenal shape, is still contributing, and could be an asset to anybody depending on what they needed, if that were the case," Lamoriello said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Cons: He wants to go to a team that has a good chance at winning the cup - this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 ^heck 4 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 He's slow he's lax in production lately and honestly aside from a PP specialist is a liability 5V5 Add in our travel sched...come on man. You're paying for the name and the Devils want a premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl's Jn Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 i think i call a dismissal on this post because of your bias! he he... can't decide if you accidentally spelled your account name wrong or purposely did especially knowing you are a fan of his... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagorim Jarg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/jagrja01-additional.html ^possession stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Arguably should have been the 3rd Sedin during their prime of 2008-12, but that ship has sailed. With the forward depth we have right now and going forward, it just doesn't make sense. We have lost so much speed over the last few years that we need to target a different kind of player if we're trying to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Yup, NJD are horrible... http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/jagrja01-additional.html ^possession stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagorim Jarg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 i think i call a dismissal on this post because of your bias! he he... can't decide if you accidentally spelled your account name wrong or purposely did especially knowing you are a fan of his... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxieMan98 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 IMO I think he would be a good piece to pick up at the right price, gives us experience and maybe someone to mentor Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagorim Jarg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 It's never too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Don't see why he'd come to the nucks when we're in a rebuild unless we overpaid him to sweeten the deal and we couldn't afford to do so, so it's pointless. This (sorry to pull an Elvis) is far fetched and shouldn't even be in Canucks talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Meth er wuuuut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Don't see why he'd come to the nucks when we're in a rebuild unless we overpaid him to sweeten the deal and we couldn't afford to do so, so it's pointless. This (sorry to pull an Elvis) is far fetched and shouldn't even be in Canucks talk. you should let nucknit know that, so he can let Benning know that "we" are in a "rebuild". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Canucks had their shot at Jagr in 1990, they passed unfortunately. Let it go, Benning & Linden headed in the right direction and don't need to deviate from their plan despite your infographics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagorim Jarg Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Maybe the question is- do you prefer a Burrows now and a bit later or a Jagr with less longevity? I'm just saying the cap hit is similar. These aren't my graphics, I'm just relaying what I've found so far. If you know what the direction Benning and Linden are taking is for sure, you just let us know. The direction is forward in time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I can't see it for just about every possible reason you could think about from Timing is wrong Western Conf not his preference Only a stop gap player Other teams outbidding us No room, we can't seem to get rid of our bottom depth redundancy We are looking to get younger .... the list goes on and on. Having said that I love Jags and would love him on the team for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Honestly if Jagr doesn't cost much and New Jersey is willing to retain cap I'd be interested. Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Vrbata - Bonino - Jagr Higgins - Vey - Kassian Matthias - Horvat - Hansen/Dorsett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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