mangosteens Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 In thinking about what the Canucks should do when Richardson and Bonino return from injury, I realized that this is the year where the Canucks could sell at the trade deadline to try and bolster their farm system or fill an organizational need. This is the list of "bottom 9" kind of players who are fighting for roster spots with their contract status if they are a free agent this year: Matthias (UFA) Richardson (UFA) Dorsett (UFA) Higgins Hansen Horvat Vey (RFA) Kassian Kenins (RFA) Bonino McMillan (RFA) I think we could trade one or two of the UFAs and still have a group that is good enough to make the playoffs. Even with keeping all the UFAs, the Canucks are not going to have a great chance of getting by the best teams in the west in the playoffs. So, management needs to be realistic about this season and the future. Picking up a young asset or two for players that will be gone in the offseason is something that teams that are looking to the future do at the deadline. I'm not talking about a full scale sell off, just selling some UFA depth to both acquire younger assets and free up some space so the young assets we already have can continue to develop and play. The play of Horvat and to some extent Vey has made one of Matthias or Richardson expendable. I lean towards trading Richardson, but would deal Matthias if the return was better. Dorsett is a guy playoff teams would want, but I don't think the Canucks have someone to fill his role should he be traded - so the return on Dorsett would need to substantial. When trading UFAs, the return is likely just draft picks. But, those draft picks could be kept to continue adding to our prospect pool or could be flipped for UFA help on the blue line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 In thinking about what the Canucks should do when Richardson and Bonino return from injury, I realized that this is the year where the Canucks could sell at the trade deadline to try and bolster their farm system or fill an organizational need. This is the list of "bottom 9" kind of players who are fighting for roster spots with their contract status if they are a free agent this year: Matthias (UFA) Richardson (UFA) Dorsett (UFA) Higgins Hansen Horvat Vey (RFA) Kassian Kenins (RFA) Bonino McMillan (RFA) I think we could trade one or two of the UFAs and still have a group that is good enough to make the playoffs. Even with keeping all the UFAs, the Canucks are not going to have a great chance of getting by the best teams in the west in the playoffs. So, management needs to be realistic about this season and the future. Picking up a young asset or two for players that will be gone in the offseason is something that teams that are looking to the future do at the deadline. I'm not talking about a full scale sell off, just selling some UFA depth to both acquire younger assets and free up some space so the young assets we already have can continue to develop and play. The play of Horvat and to some extent Vey has made one of Matthias or Richardson expendable. I lean towards trading Richardson, but would deal Matthias if the return was better. Dorsett is a guy playoff teams would want, but I don't think the Canucks have someone to fill his role should he be traded - so the return on Dorsett would need to substantial. When trading UFAs, the return is likely just draft picks. But, those draft picks could be kept to continue adding to our prospect pool or could be flipped for UFA help on the blue line. Sorry why exactly would we trade forward depth for picks then flip those picks for Dman UFA rentals? If we are sellers we won't need the D for a playoff push, why wouldn't we just keep the picks or use them to move up the draft or to trade for young NHL Dmen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Isn't this the 3rd one of these threads in the last two days?!?! Need more redundant threads!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I agree and some players won't be moved with the contracts they have,saying that the offseason should be different and I think thats the time Benning will make the biggest moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Richardson can go. He's been good but we have a few 3C's now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Isn't this the 3rd one of these threads in the last two days?!?! Need more redundant threads!! I'm starting to feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Package two players for a top 6 forward. I could care less about the farm or draft picks. Go for the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggy Bank Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Richardson Higgins and Kassian... YOUR DONE Vey Horvat 3-4C Dorsett Matthias Hansen McMillan bottom 6 forwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangosteens Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Sorry why exactly would we trade forward depth for picks then flip those picks for Dman UFA rentals? If we are sellers we won't need the D for a playoff push, why wouldn't we just keep the picks or use them to move up the draft or to trade for young NHL Dmen? Because we need d-men more than forwards and our forward UFAs won't get d-men UFAs. Teams that are selling d-men don't want UFA forwards back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangosteens Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Package two players for a top 6 forward. I could care less about the farm or draft picks. Go for the cup. To get top 6 players in trade you need to have the assets to spend. That's why it is good to take the opportunity to build up the system once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Package two players for a top 6 forward. I could care less about the farm or draft picks. Go for the cup. So basically we should be like Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So basically we should be like Toronto.Apollo is on a whole different level of delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyndall2 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Why does everyone like Vey's play. He gives the puck away more than Bieksa trying to beat players at his own blueline instead of passing the puck. Mathias is tougher, can score and is a thinker when on the ice. I would put Vey, Higgins and Burrows up on the trade block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupless44 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 In thinking about what the Canucks should do when Richardson and Bonino return from injury, I realized that this is the year where the Canucks could sell at the trade deadline to try and bolster their farm system or fill an organizational need. This is the list of "bottom 9" kind of players who are fighting for roster spots with their contract status if they are a free agent this year: Matthias (UFA) Richardson (UFA) Dorsett (UFA) Higgins Hansen Horvat Vey (RFA) Kassian Kenins (RFA) Bonino McMillan (RFA) I think we could trade one or two of the UFAs and still have a group that is good enough to make the playoffs. Even with keeping all the UFAs, the Canucks are not going to have a great chance of getting by the best teams in the west in the playoffs. So, management needs to be realistic about this season and the future. Picking up a young asset or two for players that will be gone in the offseason is something that teams that are looking to the future do at the deadline. I'm not talking about a full scale sell off, just selling some UFA depth to both acquire younger assets and free up some space so the young assets we already have can continue to develop and play. The play of Horvat and to some extent Vey has made one of Matthias or Richardson expendable. I lean towards trading Richardson, but would deal Matthias if the return was better. Dorsett is a guy playoff teams would want, but I don't think the Canucks have someone to fill his role should he be traded - so the return on Dorsett would need to substantial. When trading UFAs, the return is likely just draft picks. But, those draft picks could be kept to continue adding to our prospect pool or could be flipped for UFA help on the blue line. Fully agree with this and will be disappointed in Benning if he is not looking at the future at the trade deadline. Good for the process to make the playoff but this is nowhere near a cup contender.In no way do I want the Canucks to be buyers at the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Apollo is on a whole different level of delusional. Yes delusion... I've said from the start this team can finish second in the division and been bashed since August. I'm delusional. Look at the standings, I just have superior hockey iq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Apollo is on a whole different level of delusional. every time you think he's reached the pinnacle, he bumps up a ;evel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 SELL! SELL! SELL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yes delusion... I've said from the start this team can finish second in the division and been bashed since August. I'm delusional. Look at the standings, I just have superior hockey iq As tinted as your rose coloured glasses are, I agree with you, and also said the Canucks will finish 2nd/3rd in their division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Richardson and Higgins may be handy to have if Benning thinks we can compete in these playoffs (and we may well be able to considering how weak the Pacific is, we've got a good shot at at least making the 2nd round). However, if there's a package available for a 1st round pick in this deep draft, or a top-6/top-4 guy who is still young and has upside, then these depth forwards should be let go. I'm talking like Richardson + Kassian for Joe Morrow etc. It'd have to be some real quality coming back the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Nucks Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Hansen, Higgins and Kass have years left on their contracts right? Why not move them at the draft? (Assuming we move them at all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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