wallstreetamigo Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I think it is pretty obvious that the pp is not getting it done on a consistent enough basis for a team that hopes to make - and do some damage in - the playoffs. The question is what should WD be doing to improve it? For what its worth i would like to see something like the following: Sedin-Sedin-Kassian Sanguinetti-Vrbata Matthias-Horvat-Burrows Clendening-Sbisa I think this will give us a different look on both units and hopefully can help generate some quality shots from the blue line. This also frees up Higgins, Hansen, Dorsett, and Hamhuis to focus on shoring up the pk unit at the same time. I am interested to hear what everyone thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtzguy Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I would do Sedin-Horvat-Sedin Vrbata-Clendening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Just take off Dorsett for crying out loud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Just take off Dorsett for crying out loud... I would agree that it is a failed experiment that has more than run its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxieMan98 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'd like to see Bo with the sedins on the PP parked in front of the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 When working, our pp starts with the good shot from the point, even right back to 2011 with Hoff. Take the forward off the point, set up the D on opposite sides, ready for the one timer, and let fly. This is what Weber is best at, yet never utilized for, and we have Clendening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo.Horvat53 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sedin-Sedin-Horvat Clendening-Vrbata Jensen-Matthias-Kassian/Burrows Weber-Vey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Is Sanguinetti in next game? I'm not sure if he should be on the 1st PP, maybe give that spot to Weber. I agree with everything else though, it's getting frustrating that WD won't try something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 something needs to be addressed for sure....the PP just aint cutting it. Higgins shouldnt be in there, Bo and Matty should be. in b4 this becomes a Kassian Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Horvat has been dynamite in front of the net, not only causing havoc but banging in rebounds and loose pucks. Not sure how good he is in making a screen but he's a big body and has pretty good hands. The same can be said for Kassian (better screen but not as good on loose pucks). Sedin - Sedin - Kassian/Horvat Vbrata - Hamhuis Hamhuis is the best on the blueline at getting shots through for tips, and has been since he got here. He's struggled this season IMO but is putting up some assists so lets keep him on the powerplay. Vbrata opens up the option of a right-handed shot on the left side to keep defences honest while the Sedins play catch from the left halfboards (Henrik) to behind the net round the other side (Daniel), but IMO this powerplay should revolve around the net man. Kassian or Horvat just need to plonk themselves in front of the net, hovering around constantly to keep their defenceman moving from left to right along the crease while the Sedins throw it around. The twins have no problem moving in and setting up, it's just finishing that's the problem on the powerplay. They need to make it simple and give themselves these options when Henrik has the puck on the left half-boards: 1) Slap-pass to Daniel in the slot 2) Tip in pass to Horvat/Kassian 3) Set up one timer from either blueliner 4) Give it to the blueline to play catch with each other, then shoot with a screen or for a rebound to bang in I know it's easier said than done, but the personel are almost fine, we just need to change our mindset on the PP. Creating shots from anywhere creates choas and once there's that, we pounce on rebounds and score goals with defencemen/goalies out of position. That's how we've scored our last few PP goals, and throwing Kassian or Horvat into the crease makes the chaos even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolpro327 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 plz take hamhuis off the pp k thx bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The biggest thing they need to fix is the PP entry. That drop pass thing has got to go because everyone knows it's coming and it never works. The best way to gain the zone is to flip the puck in and have 2 forwards go in with speed and the F3 hangs back a bit for the puck. This way you either pressure the defenceman into a turnover or you reach the puck first. Perimeter passing is only helpful if it has a purpose. When Radim Vrbata is on your PP along the left boards, the priority should be setting him up for his laser one-timers. Obviously this will only be available if there is another threat and that should be Yannick Weber. This guy has an absolute cannon of a slapshot but is being underused. If Weber plays the right point, other teams will not be able to over-commit on either side of the ice. Even with their current injuries, it's not impossible to come up with 2 PP units that can be effective. Behemoths like Kassian and Matthias can provide screens but also have enough skill to step to the side and make some passes to create chances. The Sedins are supremely talented but can get a little predictable. I know they are creative enough to make up some new plays or find a way to exploit other teams' weaknesses. That Chicago OT goal was pure magic. PP1 Vrbata - H. Sedin - D. Sedin Hamhuis - Weber PP2 Vey - Matthias - Kassian Clendening - Sbisa In addition to shooting as much as possible, there needs to be movement on the PP. There is too much standing around right now which makes it easy to defend. If guys are cutting into the slot for one-time chances or at least being a decoy there, you also create chances for backdoor plays with the defenceman going to the net. All this is easy to write down and very difficult to do against even the worst NHL teams (okay, maybe not against Edmonton) but they should have an idea of how they want to execute. Sometimes it looks like they aren't sure of what they want to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The biggest thing they need to fix is the PP entry. That drop pass thing has got to go because everyone knows it's coming and it never works. The best way to gain the zone is to flip the puck in and have 2 forwards go in with speed and the F3 hangs back a bit for the puck. This way you either pressure the defenceman into a turnover or you reach the puck first. Perimeter passing is only helpful if it has a purpose. When Radim Vrbata is on your PP along the left boards, the priority should be setting him up for his laser one-timers. Obviously this will only be available if there is another threat and that should be Yannick Weber. This guy has an absolute cannon of a slapshot but is being underused. If Weber plays the right point, other teams will not be able to over-commit on either side of the ice. Even with their current injuries, it's not impossible to come up with 2 PP units that can be effective. Behemoths like Kassian and Matthias can provide screens but also have enough skill to step to the side and make some passes to create chances. The Sedins are supremely talented but can get a little predictable. I know they are creative enough to make up some new plays or find a way to exploit other teams' weaknesses. That Chicago OT goal was pure magic. PP1 Vrbata - H. Sedin - D. Sedin Hamhuis - Weber PP2 Vey - Matthias - Kassian Clendening - Sbisa In addition to shooting as much as possible, there needs to be movement on the PP. There is too much standing around right now which makes it easy to defend. If guys are cutting into the slot for one-time chances or at least being a decoy there, you also create chances for backdoor plays with the defenceman going to the net. All this is easy to write down and very difficult to do against even the worst NHL teams (okay, maybe not against Edmonton) but they should have an idea of how they want to execute. Sometimes it looks like they aren't sure of what they want to try. If WD is Groundskeeper Willie then you're obviously Homer Simpson. By the way "Minor League Willie" happens be getting more results from the core players, than a Stanley Cup winning coach did. So maybe Willie knows a lot more about hockey than you ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If WD is Groundskeeper Willie then you're obviously Homer Simpson. By the way "Minor League Willie" happens be getting more results from the core players, than a Stanley Cup winning coach did. So maybe Willie knows a lot more about hockey than you ever will. Even Ralph Wiggum would know it's time to come up with a better 2nd PP unit than Wonka has been using for the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Unfortunately the Canucks do not have another big shot with Edler hurt, Garrison gone. It is time to bring up Bo Sang! Even Corrado would be a good help. Vrabata / Hank / Danny (yes wingers swap so each can pull the trigger). Sanguinetti / Clendening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Juice Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Simple. Two passes and then get a shot on net no matter where the puck is. We're oversimplifying it and passing the puck around the perimeter is not how you get goals. If we're shooting from the point, get guys who can actually get pucks through to the net even if it misses like Clendening, Hamhuis or Weber.Remember the first couple months during the Torts era, including the preseason? I remember our PP being fun to watch because it was just passing the puck two or three times then shoot. Pucks to the net = bigger chance of a goal. Jam the puck. Doesn't have to be pretty. As long as it's across the goal line.I remember clearly the preseason game against the Rangers last season. The powerplay was something to marvel at. Something to actually be happy about and excited to watch. As simple as you can get..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzwvKhf9b8c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoted Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Simple. Two passes and then get a shot on net no matter where the puck is. We're oversimplifying it and passing the puck around the perimeter is not how you get goals. If we're shooting from the point, get guys who can actually get pucks through to the net even if it misses like Clendening, Hamhuis or Weber. Remember the first couple months during the Torts era, including the preseason? I remember our PP being fun to watch because it was just passing the puck two or three times then shoot. Pucks to the net = bigger chance of a goal. Jam the puck. Doesn't have to be pretty. As long as it's across the goal line. I remember clearly the preseason game against the Rangers last season. The powerplay was something to marvel at. Something to actually be happy about and excited to watch. As simple as you can get.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzwvKhf9b8c The danger there is that other teams figure it out pretty quickly, get in the lanes, block the shots and force turn overs (oftern shorthanded breakaways). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 plz take hamhuis off the pp k thx bye He's good at making breakout passes for the powerplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 The way I see it is that PP1 is working fine as it is, but they just need to pull the trigger a little more often. The best way to improve PP2 is to get a top 6 guy via trade All of our experiments this year (and last) have failed with the guys we got... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Bo Kass Matthais line. Crash and bang. Hell throw Kenins in there if you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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