thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Okay, so I want to hear your guys thoughts on this. I know a lot of people like feminism. And feminism is good, it's bringing equality for women. However, there are also a lot of people that dislike feminism, because of the judgmental attitude many feminists have toward not just male chauvinists, but men in general. Both sides have merit. However, I'd like to introduce a new thought: equalism. Basically, seeing people's differences, but treating all people as equal in spite of them (gender, age, religion, race, sexual orientation, disabilities, looks, etc.). It takes the root of what feminism is, and expands it. And it's highly unlikely that it could ever be corrupted. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I much prefer Aladeenism, Basically it's the same as your equalism except for the recognition by all that I am superior. Everyone else can be equally not as great as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Never going to happen, people need to stop shoving their beliefs down everyone else's throats. If I hate smurfs by golly I'm going to hate them till the day I die. I won't be vocal about it, but I don't need some hotshot morally obligated snot telling me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Never going to happen, people need to stop shoving their beliefs down everyone else's throats. If I hate smurfs by golly I'm going to hate them till the day I die. I won't be vocal about it, but I don't need some hotshot morally obligated snot telling me otherwise. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'll give my thoughts on this right after the missus makes me my sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It is human nature to make judgments based on preconceptions, so equalism is a dream for robots. Individualism seems more attainable, as people tend to care more about themselves by the day. But you can believe in individualism and still maintain a high moral code, and that will ultimately lead to a better society in which the rights of the individual are respected by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 It is human nature to make judgments based on preconceptions, so equalism is a dream for robots. Never said making judgments was out of the question. If we never made judgments about anything, we'd never get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 What is wrong with the word Equality? Why invent a new tense? FYI, feminism is about equality. Anything that isn't from so called feminists, which is only concerned with continuing imbalance, is female chauvinism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Never said making judgments was out of the question. If we never made judgments about anything, we'd never get anywhere.But we also cannot treat people equally. We can respect their rights as inidividuals, but in true equalism, people must be equal, and they clearly aren't, at least not in the broad spectrum indicated in your op. Maybe a vague social equality is being referred to, but I think we already have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 But we also cannot treat people equally. We can respect their rights as inidividuals, but in true equalism, people must be equal, and they clearly aren't. I thought treating people equally was the whole point of feminism (as well as equalism). If we can't treat people equally, then why are we fighting for equal rights in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 nicely put @ theminister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I thought treating people equally was the whole point of feminism (as well as equalism). If we can't treat people equally, then why are we fighting for equal rights in the first place?There's nothing wrong with feminism as it is today unless it reaches too far, but that will never happen in this society imho. Expanding it to equalism, true equalism, defeats the purpose of feminism and I don't think it can take flight due to impracticality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 There's nothing wrong with feminism as it is today unless it reaches too far, but that will never happen in this society imho. Expanding it to equalism defeats the purpose of feminism and I don't think it can take flight due to impracticality. Some people have already taken it too far. That's where we get Female Chauvinists from. It's like Communism. It's great in theory, but it's been wrecked for a lot of people by a bunch of humans that used it the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Some people have already taken it too far. That's where we get Female Chauvinists from. It's like Communism. It's great in theory, but it's been wrecked for a lot of people by a bunch of humans that used it the wrong way. Equalism, like communism, cannot take flight in it's true form until the human spirit is broken. We all want to be individuals and to have our individual rights respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 When it comes to feminism, I agree with you. I sometimes feel as though the bar is pushed too far in the other direction in the case of feminism. I think a perfect balance and understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each gender is essential to helping understand how males and females can coexist in harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Do we really need a new label to tell us we are all meant to be equal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 When it comes to feminism, I agree with you. I sometimes feel as though the bar is pushed too far in the other direction in the case of feminism. I think a perfect balance and understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each gender is essential to helping understand how males and females can coexist in harmony. This is what I've been trying to get across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Okay, so I want to hear your guys thoughts on this. I know a lot of people like feminism. And feminism is good, it's bringing equality for women. However, there are also a lot of people that dislike feminism, because of the judgmental attitude many feminists have toward not just male chauvinists, but men in general. Both sides have merit. However, I'd like to introduce a new thought: equalism. Basically, seeing people's differences, but treating all people as equal in spite of them (gender, age, religion, race, sexual orientation, disabilities, looks, etc.). It takes the root of what feminism is, and expands it. And it's highly unlikely that it could ever be corrupted. Thoughts? Feminists won't like it. Feminism has become based on the idea that there are systematic inequalities that need to be overcome. So treating people equally just preserves the status quo. There is some truth to this. However treating any individual based on the characteristics of a group is bigoted and dangerous. For example an individualwhite male may have had a much harder life than a colored female, even if white males as a whole are more privileged. Good luck convincing anyone in academia or government of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 Feminists won't like it. Feminism has become based on the idea that there are systematic inequalities that need to be overcome. So treating people equally just preserves the status quo. There is some truth to this. However treating any individual based on the characteristics of a group is bigoted and dangerous. For example an individualwhite male may have had a much harder life than a colored female, even if white males as a whole are more privileged. Good luck convincing anyone in academia or government of this. I think, maybe you just have to take each person by their situation. Some people get offended at things others don't. Some people apply to stereotypes while other people don't. I guess, just, if you're going to judge, judge rightly. Treat people with respect and love and kindness (which is nearly impossible in today's world, but change the world by changing yours, I guess). There's not much else you can do from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité Not a new idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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