YEGCanuck Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 No thanks. What this team needs is an expert, like many, to come in and teach our centres how to be better at faceoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 No thanks. What this team needs is an expert, like many, to come in and teach our centres how to be better at faceoffs. Manny played with hank for years... It didn't rub off then. Don't c how it will now or later. It's like hanks passing ability, u can't just teach it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Hank's faceoff percentage was higher back in the years Kes and Manny were here. Practicing with guys who are good in the dot has to help, and undoubtedly their presence in the lineup also changes matchups favourably at least some of the time. It's going to get worse before it gets better if Richardson is gone next year. In the longer run, when McCann and Cassels are in their second and third years on the big club, we'll be on the upswing with faceoff percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 jay mcclement name is interesting. hard to judge his value when bergenheim goes for a 2nd and winnink goes for a 2nd and a 4th mcclement is 11th in the league in faceoffs operating at 55% to car: richardson, 3rd pick 2016 to van: mcclement sedin-sedin-kassian maathias-bonino-vrbata higgins-mcclement-burrows dorsett-horvat-hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Manny played with hank for years... It didn't rub off then. Don't c how it will now or later. It's like hanks passing ability, u can't just teach it What are you talking about? Plenty of Cs learn to improve in the faceoff dot.. You can't teach Hank's vision and passing, but faceoffs can be learned Also Hank did a lot better when we had Manny - 52% in 2011, 50.1% in 2012 Having a guy like Manny may or may not help him become better, but it allows Hank to take fewer faceoffs than he is now. For example, if we had a guy like Manny then he would take as many hard faceoffs as he can while Henrik would be taking less faceoffs against lesser competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Imagine how good this team would be with Kesler as our 3C instead of Vey I know it would be impossible because we wouldn't have Bones but just imagine Hank/Bones/Kes/Horvat... Dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Must not doubt the bull!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Imagine how good this team would be with Kesler as our 3C instead of Vey I know it would be impossible because we wouldn't have Bones but just imagine Hank/Bones/Kes/Horvat... Dirty It's like NHL 13 where there is a loophole to get over the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchoball Cannons Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Benning was working on getting Santorelli but Nashville beat us to it. Price is way to high on Vermette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think VAN needs a right handed draw taker. Or two. Last season Kesler, Santorelli, Schroeder, Dalpe were all right handed. This year just Vey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think VAN needs a right handed draw taker. Or two. Last season Kesler, Santorelli, Schroeder, Dalpe were all right handed. This year just Vey. This for sure. The left side can go to Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'd like to try for Hanzal when he's healthy; he'd be a beast to handle when healthy, plus he only makes $3.1 M per season, which is entirely reasonable for a 2nd line center. I'd easily trade one of our wingers to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 JB joined the Bruins the summer of 2006 after the draft. He had nothing to do with the Bruins' 2006 draft. But you're right...for all the talk about JB's amateur scouting expertise, the guys that have played any NHL games from under his watch as AGM and de facto head of scouting for the Bruins are: 2012 - Malcolm Subban and Seth Griffith 2011 - Dougie Hamilton, Alex Khoklachev and Brian Ferlin 2010 - Tyler Seguin, Ryan Spooner, Craig Cunningham, Justin Florek and Zach Trotman 2009 - Jordan Caron and Lane McDermid 2008 - Joe Colborne and Michael Hutchison 2007 - Zach Hamill As it is right now, most are still in the prospects category and only a few picks have had an impact at the NHL level. Back to the original OP...Canucks definitely need a guy who is strong in the dot, especially in the d-zone. Giving up too many freebies in the defensive zone. According to an article I read a couple of years ago the odds of a second round pick having a "successful career" is around 25%. This is not the chance of a second rounder being an "impact player" though. What they considered a "successful career" was playing the minimum 160 NHL games to qualify for a pension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermanbieksa Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Sure it swould be nice, but I would like to see a stat that shows if you win more games when you have above 50% succes on the dot. If you win 55% of the games when you're above 50% and 45% of the games when you're below 50& for example. I know it might sound stupid but I actually think a team doesn't have to be more than decent on face offs and it's not worth trading any pieces for a guy who's only good at faceoffs (MacKenzie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I agree with some of the others on McClement I think McClement could be had for a reasonable price, big body, experience, good defensively, and very good faceoff guy He is a +1 on a bad team, played in every game(59), taken 729 Faceoffs and won 55.6% of them this year. His cap hit is $1M and is UFA after this season, 31 yrs old CAR will not be re-signing him so they would like to move him for maybe a mid round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Benning was working on getting Santorelli but Nashville beat us to it. Price is way to high on Vermette. JB was crazy to not resign him. Worst move as gm so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I agree with some of the others on McClement I think McClement could be had for a reasonable price, big body, experience, good defensively, and very good faceoff guy He is a +1 on a bad team, played in every game(59), taken 729 Faceoffs and won 55.6% of them this year. His cap hit is $1M and is UFA after this season, 31 yrs old CAR will not be re-signing him so they would like to move him for maybe a mid round pick.Still not an upgrade on Richardson, let lone Horvat. As for Richardson, he resumed skating yesterday. So there's your deadline 'faceoff specialist' acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfly Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Horvat has esentially adopted that role and is gradually growing to serving the same Purpose for us as Malhotra did in 2011. Except he's alot more skilled then Manny was for us, even before his injury. Do we need more faceoff help? No, we need our first and second line centres to be better. But thats just IMO. Manny had incomparable stats in the faceoff dot when we had him. No offense to Bo Scorevat, but he's got a ways to go before he hits Malhotra faceoff numbers. A specialist he is not... yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfly Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Manny played with hank for years... It didn't rub off then. Don't c how it will now or later. It's like hanks passing ability, u can't just teach it Wha? It didn't rub off? Not sure if you know this, but Manny was injured... really bad. If Hanks ability was "rubbing off" on him, the progress came to a grinding halt because of that really unlucky injury. Though I would argue that Manny showed the kind of leadership upon his return that put shivers on backs. There's no way he should have been in there when he returned...that to me, is comparable to Hanks team first attitude. If any skill was gained by the team from Manny that year, it was HIS faceoff ability. I don't know how many times they showed that guy teaching the other players how to properly take one... even the year after. Big props to Manny Malhotra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.