Mackcanuck Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 It doesn't matter, Nonis will probably use the cap to sign a blind goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 In all seriousness though, TOR needs a GM that has a good draft history (obviously as a rebuilding franchise) Although Gillis was good in his last two, he was awful in the 4 years prior with one or two decent picks - although he somewhat made up for it with some of his numerous free-agent signings, TOR can't afford to miss with their high picks Ray Shero isn't the greatest at drafting, neither was Gillis (until the last two - so maybe he's learned) - maybe former WSH GM George McPhee? Or perhaps even Peter Chiarelli if he's fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 So....insuring a players contract against LT injury/retirement is optional for each NHL team? Really? The Leafs are the kinda team who would then I suppose. Way more "have" then the Jackets Surprised that's not a league wide policy though.... A player has to pass a physical in order for insurance companies to accept it. Horton was injured at the time of signing, but Columbus were willing to take a chance on him to get him signed. It backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 In all seriousness though, TOR needs a GM that has a good draft history (obviously as a rebuilding franchise) Although Gillis was good in his last two, he was awful in the 4 years prior with one or two decent picks - although he somewhat made up for it with some of his numerous free-agent signings, TOR can't afford to miss with their high picks Ray Shero isn't the greatest at drafting, neither was Gillis (until the last two - so maybe he's learned) - maybe former WSH GM George McPhee? Or perhaps even Peter Chiarelli if he's fired The "good GM at drafting" argument is a bit of a fallacy. The scouting and developing areas and who compiles them often make a much larger difference than who is the GM. Gillis had below average success in his drafts. But so did Nonis before him, Burke before him, Quinn before him (except for knowing Bure was eligible)... Whereas look at Anaheim. They drafted Parenteau (9th round), Lupul, Getzlaf, Perry, Belesky (4th round), Schultz, Vatanen (also 4th round), Fowler, Smith-Pelley, Rakell, Lindholm...all under 3 wildly different GMs. Are the GM's good at drafting, or does the organization just have better people under them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 In all seriousness though, TOR needs a GM that has a good draft history (obviously as a rebuilding franchise) Although Gillis was good in his last two, he was awful in the 4 years prior with one or two decent picks - although he somewhat made up for it with some of his numerous free-agent signings, TOR can't afford to miss with their high picks Ray Shero isn't the greatest at drafting, neither was Gillis (until the last two - so maybe he's learned) - maybe former WSH GM George McPhee? Or perhaps even Peter Chiarelli if he's fired Gillis had stated early on that he had a theory with drafting and that's the theory he applied. He generally picked smart players overall. Evidently, the theory did not hold up and he had to change that theory later on, starting with the year Jensen was picked (I think there was an article with him stating he adjusted his drafting strategy somewhere but I can't confirm it). However, I really like Buffalo's draft history during Benning's tenure there as chief scout. A LOT of NHL players were drafted during that time: Pominville, Vanek, Sekera, Miller, Stafford, and Wideman just to name a few. Many were drafted in the 2nd round or later. Assuming Benning had a good say in who Buffalo drafted, I think it's a very impressive track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The "good GM at drafting" argument is a bit of a fallacy. The scouting and developing areas and who compiles them often make a much larger difference than who is the GM. Gillis had below average success in his drafts. But so did Nonis before him, Burke before him, Quinn before him (except for knowing Bure was eligible)... Whereas look at Anaheim. They drafted Parenteau (9th round), Lupul, Getzlaf, Perry, Belesky (4th round), Schultz, Vatanen (also 4th round), Fowler, Smith-Pelley, Rakell, Lindholm...all under 3 wildly different GMs. Are the GM's good at drafting, or does the organization just have better people under them? The Canucks have Igor Larionov to thank for that and a former Soviet sports editor named Igor Kuperman. At that time, players had to have played a certain amount of games in the Soviet Elite league, to be eligible for the NHL draft. Everyone thought that Bure was ineligible, because according to the general consensus, he had only skated in 5 games. That didn't sound right to Larionov, who called Kuperman and asked him to investigate. In a twist of fate, Kuperman was assisted in going over old Red Army game sheets by Boris Mikhailov, the assistant coach at CKSA and one of the most hated Russians form the '72 Summit series. Kuperman discovered that Bure had played in 11 games, not 5, which was exactly the amount required. And the rest is history. BTW: Kuperman is now a naturalized Canadian citizen, living in Ontario. He was originally sponsored by Ken Dryden, whom he assisted with the Moscow segment of Dryden's series "Home Game". Kuperman came to Canada and was hired by the Winnipeg Jets, (who apparently gave him a bit of a rough ride for helping out the Canucks in such a big way ) relocated to Phoenix when the team did and stayed with the franchise until 2004, before returning to Canada to work for a Sports Technology firm in Richmond Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 So sick of TSN, there are 4 articles about Clarkson on their front page alone. There's 30 teams in the NHL and this is all they can write about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Rob Mixer @RobMixer · 39m39 minutes ago David Clarkson makes his #CBJ debut today playing with Ryan Johansen and Nick Foligno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Your first look at David Clarkson in his new CBJ gear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Brilliant trade for both sides. Horton's contract was uninsured, and the chances of him coming back are slim. Instead of paying that money to have Horton not play, the at least get a body in the lineup for the $$. Cap hit isn't an issue for CBJ. Toronto clears out cap space, and they can afford to pay Horton to do nothing. Much better option than a buyout (cause that would cost $ and space). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Shawn Mitchell @smitchcd 3m3 minutes ago #CBJ David Clarkson will wear jersey No. 18. Previous 18s: R.J. Umberger, Geoff Platt, Zenith Komarniski, Robert Kron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Apparently, Karim Benzema likes the deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Wow...shocked that someone would take on Clarkson's contract. .... Well, with Columbus on the hook to pay Horton while he couldn't play for several years, it turns out to be a good hockey trade for them. For 2015-2019, 4 seasons, Clarkson will make $24.25 million. The balance on Horton's contract after this season will be $22.5 million. So, Columbus gets a player where they had none and it costs them $1.75 million over 4 seasons. That's less than they'd pay on an entry level contract to fill that space on the roster for 4 seasons so they actually save a little bit of money. Toronto gets Clarkson's cap hit back. This may be the best example of a player (Clarkson) being traded for a negative in the cap era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 ... With Miller's injury, the Canucks can now afford Kessel or Phaneuf. If the price is right, perhaps a deal could be done. Either player makes the team better. ... Even if Canucks could make the cap work this season, there's the balance of the contracts to worry about. Either Kessel or Phaneuf would put the Canucks over for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Makes sense for both sides. Columbus couldn't afford to eat that cash for someone's who's not playing, Toronto can. I'm just choked Toronto was able to move one of their anchors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanIsleCanucks Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Wow Clarkson done for season...torn oblique muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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