Phil_314 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The guys I've included in this list are either known entities as PP QB, PMD or have near or are above 0.5 p.p.g. this season from the back end. Aside from some of the bottom-feeding teams (Edmonton, Toronto, Buffalo) and New Jersey, we're the only team (the only team in the playoffs right now for sure) to not have a defenseman score over 1/2 p.p.g.! At the current pace, none of the defensemen on our roster are on pace to score more than 25 points! Anaheim: Vatanen, Lindholm, Fowler, Wisniewski Arizona: OEL Boston: Hamilton, Krug Buffalo: -- Calgary: Giordano, Brodie, Wideman Carolina: Faulk Chicago: Keith, Timonen? Colorado: Barrie, E. Johnson Columbus: J. Johnson, Savard Dallas: Klingberg, Daley, Goligoski Detroit: Kronwall, Zidlicky? Edmonton: (would you count Schultz? I'm undecided but he's got potential) Florida: Ekblad, Campbell LA: Doughty, (Sekera) Minnesota: Suter Montreal: Subban, Markov Nashville: Josi, Franson, Ellis, Weber, Jones (whoever faces them in the playoffs... ) Jersey: (Larsson could be coming on) Rangers: Yandle, Boyle? Islanders: Leddy, Boychuk (Johnny's here because he's scoring at above 1/2 p.p.g). Ottawa: Karlsson Philly: Streit, Del Zotto Pittsburgh: Letang San Jose: Burns St. Louis: Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo Tampa: Hedman, Stralman Toronto: (Rielly/ Phaneuf?) Vancouver: no pure offensive D; Edler's two-way, and Weber/ Clendening aren't Washington: Carlson, Green Winnipeg: Byfuglien, maybe Enstrom/ Myers too As most of you have likely observed, the back end of this team is an issue. Without guys who are capable of completing stretch passes (as witnessed in the S.J. game, for instance), there's a gap between our team and others in terms of the ability to generate consistent offense, if the transition from the back to the forwards can't be completed regularly. That would be like an army without a proper supply line-- the offensives would be more difficult to facilitate. Thoughts? I really hope Trader Jim does something about it in the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The guys I've included in this list are either known entities as PP QB, PMD or have near or are above 0.5 p.p.g. this season from the back end. Aside from some of the bottom-feeding teams (Edmonton, Toronto, Buffalo) and New Jersey, we're the only team (the only team in the playoffs right now for sure) to not have a defenseman score over 1/2 p.p.g.! At the current pace, none of the defensemen on our roster are on pace to score more than 25 points! Anaheim: Vatanen, Lindholm, Fowler, Wisniewski Arizona: OEL Boston: Hamilton, Krug Buffalo: -- Calgary: Giordano, Brodie, Wideman Carolina: Faulk Chicago: Keith, Timonen? Colorado: Barrie, E. Johnson Columbus: J. Johnson, Savard Dallas: Klingberg, Daley, Goligoski Detroit: Kronwall, Zidlicky? Edmonton: (would you count Schultz? I'm undecided but he's got potential) Florida: Ekblad, Campbell LA: Doughty, (Sekera) Minnesota: Suter Montreal: Subban, Markov Nashville: Josi, Franson, Ellis Jersey: (Larsson could be coming on) Islanders: Yandle, Boyle? Rangers: Leddy, Boychuk (Johnny's here because he's scoring at above 1/2 p.p.g). Ottawa: Karlsson Philly: Streit, Del Zotto Pittsburgh: Letang San Jose: Burns St. Louis: Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo Tampa: Hedman, Stralman Toronto: (Rielly/ Phaneuf?) Vancouver: no pure offensive D; Edler's two-way, and Weber/ Clendening aren't Washington: Carlson, Green Winnipeg: Byfuglien, maybe Enstrom/ Myers too As most of you have likely observed, the back end of this team is an issue. Without guys who are capable of completing stretch passes (as witnessed in the S.J. game, for instance), there's a gap between our team and others in terms of the ability to generate consistent offense, if the transition from the back to the forwards can't be completed regularly. That would be like an army without a proper supply line-- the offensives would be more difficult to facilitate. Thoughts? I really hope Trader Jim does something about it in the off-season. Clendenning can make long passes and it's not his faults the forwards can't receive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whysoserious Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You have the Islanders and Rangers mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tanev and Corrado are excellent at moving the puck /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 No Weber? No Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What will we do about this? Some may say our future looks dark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Our back end has scored consistently less than even Edmontons since about mid November. This is not new news. Many of us have been moaning about the lack of a true PMD or pure offensive talent on the back end since 2012. It is what it is. I worry more about our blueline keeping pucks out of OUR net right now than putting pucks in another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What will we do about this? Some may say our future looks dark... *rimshot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 You can't have everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Our back end has scored consistently less than even Edmontons since about mid November. This is not new news. Many of us have been moaning about the lack of a true PMD or pure offensive talent on the back end since 2012. It is what it is. I worry more about our blue-line keeping pucks out of OUR net right now than putting pucks in another Of course it's not news, but just because it's been the case for awhile doesn't make it any less of an issue. I tend to look at it as, if the passes could connect better, that even if it doesn't result in the puck going into the other team's net, then at least it would result in fewer turnovers in risky areas. You'd rarely see someone like Duncan Keith or Erik Karlsson, with the speed to drive defenders back and the passing skills to keep defenders honest, turn the puck over from the back end near their own zone like the team has been over the past couple of games, and if the breakouts are successful then that would also negate the risk of odd-man rushes and scoring chances coming back our way (unless that was Willie's way of trying to market Eddie as a #1?!). I'd think of it as two birds (offensive efficiency improved, defense less burdened because the forwards are making things happen) with one stone. For people saying Clendening, Tanev or Corrado, I'd agree that they can make passes normally, but they're not the facilitator from the back end that would have a major impact night in, night out in transition. Without strong passers from the back end the five-man skater unit won't really be able to work as a unit in moving the puck up ice, as it would be the same as having a gap in the back end between the goalie and forwards-- breakouts would be that much more difficult to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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