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3 hours ago, 70seven said:

I agree here.  Tkachuk is going to be a very valuable playoff piece. He would fit in seamlessly with the kind of forward group thats currently being assembled.  Tkachuk - Horvat - Boeser  in 2-3 years has potential to become dominant in many ways.  I like where we are headed, but its going to take a bit more time.  Only fast tracking here is getting Matty or a Finn.

I think just looking at the players available. Tkachuk is the best fit for the group moving forward in my mind. He's a Benning type of player and would compliment the already solid group of young forwards we have perfectly. Saying that, I still have Matthews and the Finns ahead of him. I can say however, I think he has narrowed the gap to the Finns atleast in my books. Actually kind off crossing my fingers we end up with him, I love the make up of that group going forward. We've got plenty of time to add defense over the next few years, this re-build has just started. 

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1 hour ago, Aleksander Barkov said:

Anyone have any good player comparisons for any of Puljujarvi, Tkatchuk, McLeod, Chychrun, Sergachev, Juolevi, Bean? 

 

- Mathews was compared to Sakic/Kopitar by Crawford.

- Laine offensive game resembles that of the great 8 Alex Ovechkin.

- Dubois plays a lot like Jamie Benn. 

Laine has been compared to Rick Nash and Puljujarvi has similarities to Blake Wheeler. But these comparisons were made by Damien Cox, whose expertise should always be taken with the biggest grain of salt. 

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4 hours ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

The simulator just gave me the ideal scenario: Vancouver, Arizona, WPG

 

See if Arizona puts a package together for Matthews and the Canucks walk away with Laine +. WPG also gets an elite player which relegates EDM, TOR, CGY lower in the draft.

That would be unreal haha squeeze em for everything they got. Hold out for 2nd oa and strome lol don't budge

 

baertschi strome laine

virtanen Horvat Boeser 

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11 hours ago, Aleksander Barkov said:

Austin Mathews to the Coyotes for their high 1st round pick, Max Domi AND Christian Dvorak. (Coyotes have the NYR 1st round pick this year as well from the Yandle deal)

 

Use the pick on one of Sergachev/Bean/Juolevi that's a given. So we get our 1 D and we reunite Horvat with Domi which would elevate Horvat to 1 C and we get a legit C prospect in Dvorak. 

 

 

 

They won't trade Domi they already committed to him and Ducliar. That's a line itself and Dvorak and Domi have familiarity.

 

Dvorak has high upside and Domi is already making an NHL impact with his teammate Ducliar on top of a top 10 pick?!? Yeah Coyotes say no thanks. Coyotes aren't stupid.

 

They are already set.

 

Strome and Dvorak as their 1/2 punch for years. Top that off with FIVE other prospects that play C.

 

Fischer 32nd overall in 2015

Merkley 30th overall in 2015

Letunov 52nd overall in 2014

McInnis 43rd overall in 2014

Dauphin 39th overall in 2013

 

That's 7 center prospects drafted in the first 2 rounds in the last 3 drafts, 2 of which Strome and Dvorak has high upside already. They have one of the deepest, if not the deepest, center prospect pools in the league. That's why they aren't going to overpay for Matthews.

 

They have no defense at all. Nobody with top pairing upside and they have a chance to get one with their pick.

 

I am sure if Matthews falls on their lap in the lotto they'd take him, any team would, but they are not going to trade for him. It would be too much of a setback to an organization that really needs a young stud defenseman as bad as us, maybe even more so.

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1 hour ago, DeltaSwede said:

I think just looking at the players available. Tkachuk is the best fit for the group moving forward in my mind. He's a Benning type of player and would compliment the already solid group of young forwards we have perfectly. Saying that, I still have Matthews and the Finns ahead of him. I can say however, I think he has narrowed the gap to the Finns atleast in my books. Actually kind off crossing my fingers we end up with him, I love the make up of that group going forward. We've got plenty of time to add defense over the next few years, this re-build has just started. 

Tkachuk could definitely be the 4th best player in this draft, and i would personally not mind if we pick him. I'm personally not sure if he's the type of player we need though. I see him as a complimentary player, a good one for sure, but i believe this team needs someone that can be a difference maker on his line. The 2 other forwards behind him might be more of the answer there. Even if Tkachuk is the best forward after the big 3, i believe the gap between him and Dubois/Nylander isn't that big, if there even is a gap. I think their draft positions could very much depend on what teams in that range would prefer. They're all good in their own ways. I think Tkachuk would be a great fit for a team like Calgary, and even the Oilers, amongst others.


We pretty much picked a complimentary forward 6th overall 2 years ago, even though i believe there's no doubt that Tkachuk is the more talented player if you compare the 2, as far as offensive ceiling goes at least. Again wouldn't mind Tkachuk, but in a draft like this, not sure if he's the answer for us.

 

And honestly even if we are picking outside the top3, i'm confident they'll go for the defenseman either way, whether that would be Chychrun or Juolevi, who knows. Would personally prefer Chychrun, as i don't think Juolevi is top5 material, even though he's a clear top10 and a great prospect obviously.

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52 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said:

They won't trade Domi they already committed to him and Ducliar. That's a line itself and Dvorak and Domi have familiarity.

 

Dvorak has high upside and Domi is already making an NHL impact with his teammate Ducliar on top of a top 10 pick?!? Yeah Coyotes say no thanks. Coyotes aren't stupid.

 

Well no deal then we keep Mathews ::D

 

Yeah I do agree with you, it is asking a lot but if they want their golden boy they will have to overpay. I wouldn't give up Mathews unless we get Domi to boost Horvat.

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4 hours ago, nzan said:

I'm new to this thread, is there a place where someone has tracked through what we have in each round?

I'm guessing Columbus doesn't opt to give us their 2nd rounder this year, so at this point we have just our own picks in the first two rounds?

And after that?

Apologies if this has already been discussed ad nauseum.

You can check this link: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/vancouver-canucks

 

So far, Canucks have 7 draft picks in 2016: one in each of rounds 1-4, one in round 6 and two in round 7. They might get 2nd round pick from Columbus for Torts, Columbus has to decide by June 1 if this is 2016, 2017 or 2018.

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1 minute ago, Stierlitz said:

You can check this link: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/vancouver-canucks

 

So far, Canucks have 7 draft picks in 2016: one in each of rounds 1-4, one in round 6 and two in round 7. They might get 2nd round pick from Columbus for Torts, Columbus has to decide by June 1 if this is 2016, 2017 or 2018.

What happened to our fifth rounder, did JB trade it for two sevenths?  :lol:

 

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58 minutes ago, Hedman said:

Tkachuk could definitely be the 4th best player in this draft, and i would personally not mind if we pick him. I'm personally not sure if he's the type of player we need though. I see him as a complimentary player, a good one for sure, but i believe this team needs someone that can be a difference maker on his line. The 2 other forwards behind him might be more of the answer there. Even if Tkachuk is the best forward after the big 3, i believe the gap between him and Dubois/Nylander isn't that big, if there even is a gap. I think their draft positions could very much depend on what teams in that range would prefer. They're all good in their own ways. I think Tkachuk would be a great fit for a team like Calgary, and even the Oilers, amongst others.


We pretty much picked a complimentary forward 6th overall 2 years ago, even though i believe there's no doubt that Tkachuk is the more talented player if you compare the 2, as far as offensive ceiling goes at least. Again wouldn't mind Tkachuk, but in a draft like this, not sure if he's the answer for us.

 

And honestly even if we are picking outside the top3, i'm confident they'll go for the defenseman either way, whether that would be Chychrun or Juolevi, who knows. Would personally prefer Chychrun, as i don't think Juolevi is top5 material, even though he's a clear top10 and a great prospect obviously.

On the whole I agree with you. I ran out of pluses but I will give you one asap. I do think Dubois would be a better fit on the Canucks. A center who is big, fast, hard working, skilled, physical, and tenacious. What's not to like?

 

I do feel though, that Tkachuk is more than a complimentary player. He has leadership qualities and seems to be one of the drivers of his line if not the guy that makes that line go. I love his grit. This is why I would take him at fourth.

 

I too think Benning picks a Dman outside of the top 3. I just can't reconcile this with the fact that I really like Sergachev.

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I'd be really happy with Tkachuk at four. To follow up on what Alexandre said about him, a lot like Boeser on the top line for UND, he's the guy that seems to "drive" the line, when playing with high-end skill guys like Marner. If we were to draft Tkachuk, we would have two wingers in our future top-6 who drive their respective lines, and both play with excellent two-ways centres and good skill guys like Baer and Rodin. The same would also be said if we are even luckier and have a chance at drafting one of the Fins in the top-3. 

 

It seems like no matter where we select, we will either be drafting a legitimate difference maker, or JB's favourite d-man in the draft (who too, could also be a difference maker).

 

I'm happy. ::D 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, WonderTwinPowers said:

A lot of people seem pretty negative with how the odds work out at 28 overall, but I'm excited to add either one of the top 3 forwards, or at the least one of the top 3 defenceman. All would be great assets for this Franchise moving forward.

Ya people to focused on the percentages. Way I look at it is we have the 3rd best chance out of 14 teams to snag the 1st over all....Ill take those odds all day long.

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What do you think the chances are that one of the Finns falls?

If Toronto ends up picking 3rd, I can see them reaching and grabbing Alexander Nylander in hopes that he has some instant chemistry with his brother (still unlikely). I can also see Edmonton taking a D if they end up picking 3rd (I think they take Laine if they pick second, a sniper to go with McDavid). Other than that I can't see anyone else taking someone other than one of the Finns with pick #2 or #3.

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3 hours ago, pluralsight said:

Laine has been compared to Rick Nash and Puljujarvi has similarities to Blake Wheeler. But these comparisons were made by Damien Cox, whose expertise should always be taken with the biggest grain of salt. 

Grain of salt? 

How about ignored all together. 

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