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2016 NHL Entry Draft [June 24-25th || Buffalo, New York]


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2 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said:

I'd be more then ok if the Oilers take Chychrun and we end up with Juolevi. Chychrun is a good prospect but I think he's overrated.

He might be, and early in his career he's had a few injuries, which might be a concern.  But his skill set is just to hard to pass up if you have the opportunity to pick him.  

If oilers end up with a top 5 pick, they might be looking to trade it for some immediate help.  The wont be able to afford all that top talent in a few years and they'd likely get a good package from a few teams. 

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1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

He might be, and early in his career he's had a few injuries, which might be a concern.  But his skill set is just to hard to pass up if you have the opportunity to pick him.  

If oilers end up with a top 5 pick, they might be looking to trade it for some immediate help.  The wont be able to afford all that top talent in a few years and they'd likely get a good package from a few teams. 

I think they will draft the BPA and move RNH, Yaks or Eberle. for a veteran D. 

That's the move I'd make over trading another top-5 pick in this draft. 

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19 minutes ago, chickenman92 said:

From what I saw, he's more projectable as an NHL player. He has a heavy shot, he's good along the wall and he'll hit guys. He plays a very "NHL" style of game and keeps things pretty simple. Think kind of like Backes, minus the toughness, with better goal scoring.

Puljujarvi is more of a skill guy with size. He might be a better player, but he might only round into a good 2nd line guy. there's a tiny bit more risk with drafting him. 

 

I see Landeskog but bigger. 

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7 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

He might be, and early in his career he's had a few injuries, which might be a concern.  But his skill set is just to hard to pass up if you have the opportunity to pick him.  

If oilers end up with a top 5 pick, they might be looking to trade it for some immediate help.  The wont be able to afford all that top talent in a few years and they'd likely get a good package from a few teams. 

You could be right they could trade the pick but if Chychrun is available when the oilers pick I think they take him. Unless they love Juolevi like I do. The Russian is good as well but I'm a bit gun shy on ruskies. 

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11 minutes ago, chickenman92 said:

I think they will draft the BPA and move RNH, Yaks or Eberle. for a veteran D. 

That's the move I'd make over trading another top-5 pick in this draft. 

I think two pieces are going to be moved and I’m leaning towards the pick and RNH.  Oilers are at the point where they need to start building team needs and right now it’s a right handed D and goalies.  They have enough offensive talent moving forward 

 McDavid, Leon, Hall, Eberle, Yak, Nurse, Klefbom,  and add in the returns for RNH and the pick,  that’s going to be one expensive core in 3 years.   

Think of the return they’d be getting offered for the pick

Hamonic +, Tanev +, Barrie +, Gubranson +, Ellis + +, maybe even Jones would be on the market for that pick.  You would think NSH would be in on the deal looking to pick up a top end offensive threat. Also Carolina and maybe even the ducks would be involved as they both have some back end depth

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15 hours ago, Gyllenhaal said:

If we get Auston Matthews this year and Sign a top 4 defenseman and top 6 winger in free agency then we probably make the playoffs next year.

Instead we probably finish just outside the playoffs this year, draft a good prospect and then miss the playoffs again next year, and again and again and again.

I completely agree.

out:

Vrabata for 1st

Burrows for 2nd

waive higgins

hamhuis for 2nd

= 16.5 mill

 

in:

Austin Matthews 1.25

Pedan .75

Byfuglien  7.5

Lucic 7

 

Sedin Sedin Hansen

Lucic Matthews Sutter

Baertschi Horvat Virtanen

Prust Mccann Dorsette

edler Tanev

Hutton Byfuglien

Pedan Sbisa

 

 

Miller

Markstrom

 

then when miller comes off the books, a whole lot of cap opens up

 

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1 hour ago, N4ZZY said:

hope benning can get at least another first round pick (mid to late) from one of our veterans. Hamhuis and Vrbata? 

Unfortunately, Vrbata hasn't done much this year. I bet he gets a second round pick. 

Hamhuis, because of his injury, probably gets a second, maybe a third. A 1st is pushing it. Unless a Cup contender wants to boost it's defense. Then they might, just might overpay

 

 

I was thinking more Vrbata and Hamhuis to one team for a first round pick. Ideally a team that is just on the edge of making playoffs. Edmonton would be great, but I doubt that would happen.

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55 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said:

I completely agree.

out:

Vrabata for 1st

Burrows for 2nd

waive higgins

hamhuis for 2nd

= 16.5 mill

 

in:

Austin Matthews 1.25

Pedan .75

Byfuglien  7.5

Lucic 7

 

Sedin Sedin Hansen

Lucic Matthews Sutter

Baertschi Horvat Virtanen

Prust Mccann Dorsette

edler Tanev

Hutton Byfuglien

Pedan Sbisa

 

 

Miller

Markstrom

 

then when miller comes off the books, a whole lot of cap opens up

 

I’d trade Matthews to ARZ for king’s ransom

Matthews + Edler for OEK + Domi + 2016 1st round pick (13-18 range) + 2017 2nd round pick

Flip the 2016 pick first round pick for Bowey

 

Sedin Sedin Hansen

Lucic Sutter Rodin

Domi Horvat Grenier

Gaunce Mccann Dorsett

 

OEL Tanev

Hutton Sbisa

Pedan Bowey

Tryamkin

 

If you want you'd can still sign buff, but he's rumored to want 8 years. I'd pass and bowey could be top 4 by the end of the year. 

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2 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

 

 

I’d trade Matthews to ARZ for king’s ransom

 

Matthews + Edler for OEK + Domi + 2016 1st round pick (13-18 range) + 2017 2nd round pick

 

OK this is where i come in and say. THERE IS NO WAY ARIZONA IS GOING TO TRADE DOMI AND OEL for MATTHEWS. NON

 

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Just now, Gstank29 said:

OK this is where i come in and say. THERE IS NO WAY ARIZONA IS GOING TO TRADE DOMI AND OEL fo MATTHEWS. NON

 

This is where your wrong and under estimating what a kid like matthews would do for the franchise.  Look no further than Crosby in Pits, Ovi in Wsh,  two teams loosing a ton of money and a single player revived the franchise.  

 Domi isn't all the young talent the coyotes have.

Look at ARZ young depth, 

LW - Duclair, Merkley, Perlini

RW -, Merkley, Samuelsson, Bodker (25)

C - Strome, Dvorak, Rieder (22)

 

OEL was on the trade market last trade deadline so no, he's not un-tradeable.

 Edler is going back the other way although they would like someone younger like Hutton but Edler also helps them stay competitive, similarly to as why they say Doan is untradable..

What did the leafs offer the panthers for the 1st overall pick in 2014,

Kadri (a 23 year old center coming off nearly two back to back ppg years), Gardiner (a 23 year old highly doubted D coming off a 10 goal 30 point season in his first full NHL season), 8th overall pick (William Nylander).  and it still didn't get done.

 

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I would pick Laine over Puljujarvi. As mentioned before, Laine is more of a secure pick. He has the talent to be a very good 1st line winger, as does Puljujarvi. Puljujarvi has the better hands but in every other category, I think Laine matches or beats Puljujarvi. Laine is way harder to knock off the puck.

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6 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

 

Kadri (a 23 year old center coming off nearly two back to back ppg years), Gardiner (a 23 year old highly doubted D coming off a 10 goal 30 point season in his first full NHL season), 8th overall pick (William Nylander).  and it still didn't get done.

 

Just like I thought you have no idea what your talking about

Kadris last two years are 40 and 50 points NOT ANYWHERE NEAR A PPG. Gardiner is 25 and is a good  5,not anything more than that, he is also left handed.

 

Please check your facts before trying to prove a point.

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1 hour ago, Canucks Curse said:

I completely agree.

out:

Vrabata for 1st

Burrows for 2nd

waive higgins

hamhuis for 2nd

= 16.5 mill

 

in:

Austin Matthews 1.25

Pedan .75

Byfuglien  7.5

Lucic 7

 

Sedin Sedin Hansen

Lucic Matthews Sutter

Baertschi Horvat Virtanen

Prust Mccann Dorsette

edler Tanev

Hutton Byfuglien

Pedan Sbisa

 

 

Miller

Markstrom

 

then when miller comes off the books, a whole lot of cap opens up

 

Oh hell nah....Luch is not worth $7 million especially with length on his contract, Byfuglien will not be worth more than $6 million in a few years because a body that size wears the hell down and his speed will be an issue in regards to keeping up on the play.

 

PLus...and I cannot stress enough.  It pains the hell out of me to see people penciling in hansen on the 1st line so regularly.

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26 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

I’d trade Matthews to ARZ for king’s ransom

Matthews + Edler for OEK + Domi + 2016 1st round pick (13-18 range) + 2017 2nd round pick

Flip the 2016 pick first round pick for Bowey

 

Sedin Sedin Hansen

Lucic Sutter Rodin

Domi Horvat Grenier

Gaunce Mccann Dorsett

 

OEL Tanev

Hutton Sbisa

Pedan Bowey

Tryamkin

 

If you want you'd can still sign buff, but he's rumored to want 8 years. I'd pass and bowey could be top 4 by the end of the year. 

I'd flip OEL + to another team in the top 5 That way we keep our top 5 pick plus Arizona's pick.  We can draft Fabbro or Juolevi with one of them and either Chychrun or one of the Fins/Tkachuk with the top 5

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Laine is a towering forward with a knack for scoring goals. A good skater, albeit not the most agile forward in traffic. Has a set of soft hands combined with good vision, but prefers to use his heavy shot. Sometimes dangles too long. Likes to play physical, but doesn't get carried away by hitting the opponents. - EP.

 

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