ABNuck Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 It seems that expansion is all but confirmed (most speculate Las Vegas and Seattle as 2 Western Conf. expansion teams) so with that in mind here's a proposal format for that to happen (taking into consideration salary cap constraints, dumping of bad contracts, prospect pools, competitiveness etc). Let's hear other proposals and possibly who to protect from the Nucks (hard to say of course not knowing exactly when it will happen)... 1/ Expansion team will pick 1 player only from each existing franchise (30 total). 2/ Expansion team will own the #11 slot in each round of the Entry Draft before the first season of operations (1 thru 10 remain same / 11 to 30 all drop down 1 slot). 3/ Expansion team will own the #1 waiver wire option for the entire first season of operations. 4/ Original teams can protect 18 players (16 any position skaters and 2 goaltenders) total as follows: 4a - 10 skaters on NHL contracts (non ELC's) 4b - 6 skaters that are on ELC's or signed/unsigned prospects 4c - 2 goaltenders on any contract or unsigned prospects 5/ Expansion team can re-negotiate contracts with the following restrictions (if not keeping the contract the same): 5a - If team wishes to reduce the $ amount by 10% then must increase term by 1 year 5b - If team wishes to reduce the term by 1 year then must increase the $ amount by 10% (hopefully this clause helps with teams dumping bad salaries, helps expansion teams to pickup a decent player but not be too afraid of contract ie/ Mike Richards). I think adding the player prospect pools into the mix will help the expansion team to at least kickstart their own prospect pools...obviously teams will protect the top up-and-comers but at least the expansion team gets a shot at some tier 2 level talent...and also helps young prospects that were drafted by deeper teams to maybe move up the ladder a bit and get a shot that they might not otherwise have gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 where the heck did you come up with these "rules" odds are it will follow the same rules as the last expansion draft: First- and second-year pros were exempt from being selected in the draft. Each of the 30 franchises are allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen and seven forwards. Of the unprotected players, each franchise had to include at least one forward and one defenseman who appeared in 40 games last season or 70 games in the last 2 seasons combined. Each franchise also had to include at least one goaltender who appeared in 10 games last season, or a minimum of 25 games in the last 2 seasons. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals. no teams will ever agree to allowing prospects and rookies being availible to steal, the NHLPA will never allow the renegotiation of contracts, and tossing them a random draft pick seems dubious at best... also, i assume you're thinking the 2 teams won't enter at the same time, but one year after the other, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 i seem to remember that each team could lose 2 players..once a player is taken from a team, that team can then protect one more player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodCanadianKideh Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 That would be a clean way to loosen up our 'no trade clause' logjam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 It's going to be tricky for sure. But I'm pretty sure the rules there will be quite a bit different from the last time we saw an expansion draft. Quite a lot has changed since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComptonCanuck Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 i think phoenix should be move to quebec and florida to setattle. then move carolina to utah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 where the heck did you come up with these "rules" odds are it will follow the same rules as the last expansion draft: First- and second-year pros were exempt from being selected in the draft. Each of the 30 franchises are allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen and seven forwards. Of the unprotected players, each franchise had to include at least one forward and one defenseman who appeared in 40 games last season or 70 games in the last 2 seasons combined. Each franchise also had to include at least one goaltender who appeared in 10 games last season, or a minimum of 25 games in the last 2 seasons. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals. no teams will ever agree to allowing prospects and rookies being availible to steal, the NHLPA will never allow the renegotiation of contracts, and tossing them a random draft pick seems dubious at best... also, i assume you're thinking the 2 teams won't enter at the same time, but one year after the other, right? Thanks Avelanch for your insightful and creative proposal. I'm pretty sure we all know what the rules WERE 15 years ago...but I'm betting that they'll be different this time around. As I stated, the teams can protect 6 ELC's / prospects. I'm pretty certain that: 1/ teams will be OK letting go of one 2nd tier prospect and 2/ each team can only lose one player, therefore there's only a 1 in 5 chance that one of your team's 2nd tier prospects will get poached anyways. As for you being so positive that the NHLPA would be so opposed to not allowing a time over $$ or $$ over time re-negotiation well...isn't that the same organization that agreed during the last CBA to basically allow the NHL to punt 60 of its members to the curb with compliance buyouts? Talk about pushing players off a cliff into golfing oblivion. I'm pretty certain they'd be OK if a couple guys with really bad contracts are able to re-negotiate from the standpoint of actually getting more money out of their contract overall? I'm not certain what you meant about tossing them a "dubious pick"...are you saying that an 11 O/A pick is not worth it? If not then why were you so adamant that teams would never part with a 2nd tier prospect? (You're kind of contradicting yourself). And obviously I was proposing that one team would go in at a time...doesn't take a genius to figure out that's what I meant. So as you can see, if the point of your post was just to be "Comic book guy" well I can stand toe to toe with you all day...don't be offended if I bite back OK? If your objective was just to up your post count, well that's just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I can't support the idea of an expansion in the NHL with the way some franchises are run. The Florida Panthers and Arizona Coyotes deserve to and should be moved to different cities instead of watering down the talent of the league. I can't support the idea of an NHL team in Las Vegas either, who would take them seriously? Unfortunately, the conferences currently have an uneven amount of teams (16 in the east and 14 in the west). This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and means that moving only the Panthers make sense with the current setup. Move the Panthers to Seattle or Portland. They move to a city either way that will be able to support a team better than the Panthers fan base ever did and guess what! the conferences now both have 15 teams in them. It's really mind blowing that the NHL can't work something so simple out by themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Honestly I'd like to see Milwaukee or KC get a shot before Seattle or Quebec City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Why expand when some cities can't get more then 5000 people at a game for 20$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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