thejazz97 Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Thank Christ you can`t vote, at least yet. He's just as "ready" as an oil company mail clerk was but his questionable handling of Bill C-51 is losing him support in a big way. Now if we can just get the NDP to support marijuana legalization, we'd have something... Haha guys. I'm kidding. If I could vote, I'd probably go orange right now, but I'm just spectating this election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/ijay Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm not sure who to vote for to be honest but I am leaning NDP. These conservative attack ads on Justin Trudeau make me want to vote for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm just depressed that ~1/3 of voters still want to vote Conservative after what they've done to this beautiful country after the last couple elections. Derrr - @#$%'ing - rrrrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I'm just depressed that ~1/3 of voters still want to vote Conservative after what they've done to this beautiful country after the last couple elections. Derrr - @#$%'ing - rrrrp That's an easy one.. liberals don't know how to manage money, so people are afraid of them wrecking sh** worse than the PC's. No chance in hell Trudeau gets elected. That may be a fetish of people on these boards, but these boards hardly represent Canada, so it's funny to me watching people go "wut? how can people re-elect Harper?". Should be a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I said the NDP are now leading both the Liberals and Conservatives in the polls.... That's happened before then they get beat down on election day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 That's an easy one.. liberals don't know how to manage money, so people are afraid of them wrecking sh** worse than the PC's. No chance in hell Trudeau gets elected. That may be a fetish of people on these boards, but these boards hardly represent Canada, so it's funny to me watching people go "wut? how can people re-elect Harper?". Should be a no-brainer. Our economy survived the recent recession largely thanks to Liberal policies and budgeting. So yeaahhh. The Cons have basically taken any small bad points the Liberals had financially (and roundly criticized them for) and taken them to new astronomical heights. Evidently their hypocrisy knows no bounds. Cons being financially responsible/good for the economy is a giant fairy tail. If people believe otherwise, again...how sad. That said, I'd prefer the NDP win and smarten up on their marijuana legalization policy personally. Beyond their support of marijuana legalization and taxation (and that they're also not the Cons) I have little reason to support the Liberals over the NDP personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 And in other news...http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/01/02/mulcair-ndp-proportional-representation_n_6407056.html Mulcair Promises Proportional Representation If NDP Wins Next Election If the NDP forms Canada's next government, Thomas Mulcair says he'll put an end to majority governments elected by a minority of the population. In an op-ed published in Common Ground magazine this week, Mulcair promises that if the NDP has its way the next election will be the last in Canada's history conducted with a first-past-the-post system. "In the last election, Conservatives formed a majority government with only 39% of the vote," Mulcair writes. "In our current first-past-the-post system, they govern as if they have the support of all Canadians, but the fact is 61% of voters wanted someone else in government." Mulcair favourably references Germany and New Zealand, which have both adopted proportional representation. Specifically, the two nations use mixed-member proportional representation, the same system favoured by the NDP. In a mixed member system, a person casts two votes, one for a local representative and another for a party. While different versions of the system have their own quirks, in broad strokes each party ends up with a number of local and national seats that matches the party's overall share of the national vote. The NDP tabled a non-binding motion late last year calling on the House to end first-past-the-post voting and introduce a proportional system after the next election. The motion was defeated with the Conservative caucus voting unanimously against it. However, more than half of the Liberal caucus voted for the motion, despite the fact that that Justin Trudeau voted against it. In the past Trudeau has spoke in favour of a preferential ballot system. The Bloc Québécois and the Green Party also supported the NDP motion. A poll conducted by Environics in 2013 showed that a majority of Canadians (70 per cent) support moving toward some form of proportional representation. But when proposals for proportional representation have been presented to voters at the provincial level, they have been defeated. In Ontario, Prince Edward Island and twice in British Columbia, voters rejected proportional representation in referendums. The Conservatives point to these defeats as proof that Canada simply doesn't want proportional representation. However, the 2005 B.C. referendum actually saw 57.7 per cent of ballots cast in favour of the proposal. However, it failed to reach the 60 per cent threshold set to make the referendum result binding. and...http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/trudeau-announcing-plan-to-kill-first-past-the-post-by-the-next-election Trudeau announces plan to kill first-past-the-post by the next election OTTAWA — Justin Trudeau wants this fall’s national vote to be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post electoral system. And, if the Liberal leader becomes prime minister, it may also be the last election in which Canadians can choose not to vote, as well as the last in which the only way to vote is by marking an X on a paper ballot. Changing the way Canadians vote is just one element of a sweeping, 32-point plan to “restore democracy in Canada” that Trudeau announced Tuesday. Some of the measures have been previously announced, such as strengthening access-to-information laws; empowering backbench MPs by allowing more free votes and beefing up legislative oversight by Commons committees; and ending partisanship in the scandal-plagued Senate. Others are new or build upon previous commitments. Among other things, Trudeau promised a Liberal government would: -Reform question period in the House of Commons so that one day each week would be devoted solely to grilling the prime minister. -Impose spending limits on political parties between elections, not just during election campaigns. -Appoint an equal number of men and women to cabinet and adopt a government-wide appointment policy to ensure gender parity and greater representation of aboriginal people and other minorities. -Create performance standards for services offered by the federal government, complete with streamlined application processes, reduced wait times and money-back guarantees. -Create individualized, secure online accounts for Canadians who want to access all their government benefits and review key documents. -Perhaps the most ambitious promise, however, is Trudeau’s vow to do away with first-past-the-post (FPTP) in time for the next election. The current system badly distorts voters’ choices, allowing a party to win the majority of seats in the House of Commons with less than 40 per cent of the vote, and delivering wildly different seat counts to parties that win similar shares. Trudeau promised he’d introduce electoral reform legislation within 18 months of forming government. The legislation would be based on the recommendations of a special, all-party parliamentary committee mandated to fully and fairly study alternatives to first-past-the-post, including ranked ballots and proportional representation. The committee would also explore the notions of mandatory voting and online voting. The Liberal party sought grassroots reaction to the notion of legally compelling Canadians to vote, as is done in Australia, in a survey last summer. But Trudeau has not committed to take it any further until now. The survey followed an analysis by one of Trudeau’s senior policy advisers, University of Ottawa academic Robert Asselin, who advocated mandatory voting and the introduction of preferential or ranked ballots as ways to re-engage Canadians in the political process. Turnout in federal elections has plunged from a high of almost 80 per cent of eligible voters in 1958 to a record low of 58.8 per cent in 2008, according to Elections Canada. It rebounded slightly in 2011 to 61.1 per cent. Under Asselin’s proposal, eligible voters would be legally required to vote but would have the option of voting for “none of the above.” Those who didn’t vote would face a small fine. Electronic voting has also been touted as a way to entice busy Canadians to cast ballots. But Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s Conservative government last year effectively scotched Elections Canada’s plans to experiment with online voting, requiring any such tests to be approved by Parliament. First-past-the-post has long been viewed as the primary culprit behind declining turnout, contributing to Canadians’ belief that their votes don’t count. Trudeau personally favours replacing it with preferential balloting, in which voters rank their first, second, third and subsequent choices. If no candidate receives an absolute majority on the first ballot, the last-place candidate is eliminated and his or her supporters’ second-choice votes are counted. That continues until one candidate receives over 50 per cent. However, Trudeau has also said he’s willing to consider proportional representation, a more complex reform for which there are a variety of possible models. Essentially, it involves electing multiple representatives for each constituency, with the seats divvied up in proportion to the share of votes won by each party in each riding. Can't wait to hear how the Cons paint much needed electoral reform as "evil"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckamo Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 That's happened before then they get beat down on election day. If young voters actually turned up on election day I think the polls would be a lot more accurate (which is why I don't let myself get optimistic). Also, I feel like lots of would-be NDP voters bail and vote for Liberal because they feel that Liberals are more likely to beat the Conservatives, but that clearly changed last election; and with the NDP being the only major party NOT supporting C-51, maybe we will see more of a boost for the NDP in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I think I'll vote for Trudeau. Sure I'm a bit disappointed about Bill C-51 but if I take an honest look at both sides - what are the odds that I or anybody I know will be the victim of a terrorist act, or on the other hand, a victim of civil rights abuses because of this bill - the answer to both is minuscule. Whereas there are dozens of other major policy positions which are guaranteed to affect my life, and I find that the Liberals most align with my views (Greens 2nd, NDP 3rd, Conservatives 4th). So I'll vote Liberal, and if they really mess up the campaign then probably Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think I'll vote for Trudeau. Sure I'm a bit disappointed about Bill C-51 but if I take an honest look at both sides - what are the odds that I or anybody I know will be the victim of a terrorist act, or on the other hand, a victim of civil rights abuses because of this bill - the answer to both is minuscule. Whereas there are dozens of other major policy positions which are guaranteed to affect my life, and I find that the Liberals most align with my views (Greens 2nd, NDP 3rd, Conservatives 4th). So I'll vote Liberal, and if they really mess up the campaign then probably Green. I don't understand why people are so stuck on the Liberal stance regarding C-51. The way I see it, that bill does have some redeeming qualities, it just requires amending to protect that law from being misused. Harper is banking on the left splitting the vote between the Liberals and the NDP, that will secure a majority for him for sure For those of you choosing to vote NDP: Most likely all you will do by voting NDP is allowing an easier victory for the Conservative in your riding. NDP will lose support in Quebec, so there's a good chances they will lose Official Opposition status. From what I can see, a vote for the NDP is a vote for Stephen Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckamo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I don't understand why people are so stuck on the Liberal stance regarding C-51. The way I see it, that bill does have some redeeming qualities, it just requires amending to protect that law from being misused. Harper is banking on the left splitting the vote between the Liberals and the NDP, that will secure a majority for him for sure For those of you choosing to vote NDP: Most likely all you will do by voting NDP is allowing an easier victory for the Conservative in your riding. NDP will lose support in Quebec, so there's a good chances they will lose Official Opposition status. From what I can see, a vote for the NDP is a vote for Stephen Harper. Is that still valid with NDP popularity increasing? Why isn't a vote for Liberals a vote for Harper? NDP are official opposition, afterall? (not rhetorical, I just haven't seen a reasonable response to this yet) I'll probably vote NDP because that's where my political beliefs are most in line. It's really frustrating that we even have to think about how best to vote out Harper. I also just watched the "Just not ready" ad for the first time. And I disagree. Justin's hair isn't all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Is that still valid with NDP popularity increasing? Why isn't a vote for Liberals a vote for Harper? NDP are official opposition, afterall? (not rhetorical, I just haven't seen a reasonable response to this yet) I'll probably vote NDP because that's where my political beliefs are most in line. It's really frustrating that we even have to think about how best to vote out Harper. I also just watched the "Just not ready" ad for the first time. And I disagree. Justin's hair isn't all that great. Well, the NDP stand to lose several seats in Quebec due to the re-emergence of the Bloc Quebecois. The Bloc is arguably a more accomplished party in the sense that they have achieved official opposition status in the past despite being a 'regional 'party that officially puts the needs of Quebeckers first, while the rest of Canada takes a back seat. Gilles Duceppe is far more popular among Quebeckers than Tom Mulcair is, and I would not be surprised to see the NDP lose nearly every single seat in Quebec. Vote the way you want, but historically the left votes Liberal more often (there haven't been any NDP governments on the federal level to date) so if you want to avoid another Conservative government, I would vote Liberal if I were you. Both the NDP and the Bloc formed a unofficial coalition with the Conservatives back in 2004, with Duceppe and Harper working together (along with Layton) so I could easily envision those two reuniting should the Conservatives form a minority government. I am not a Liberal junkie per se, but ousting Harper by aby means necessary is priority #1 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 I am not a Liberal junkie per se, but ousting Harper by aby means necessary is priority #1 to me. I'll respect whoever comes in, but I'd rather Harper than Trudeau right now. The Libs might right the ship financially, and if they do, good for them and Canada, but I feel like they're going to screw up in other areas. Orange>Blue>Red imho, but I feel like the Liberals will end up with a minority win anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckamo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Well, the NDP stand to lose several seats in Quebec due to the re-emergence of the Bloc Quebecois. The Bloc is arguably a more accomplished party in the sense that they have achieved official opposition status in the past despite being a 'regional 'party that officially puts the needs of Quebeckers first, while the rest of Canada takes a back seat. Gilles Duceppe is far more popular among Quebeckers than Tom Mulcair is, and I would not be surprised to see the NDP lose nearly every single seat in Quebec. Vote the way you want, but historically the left votes Liberal more often (there haven't been any NDP governments on the federal level to date) so if you want to avoid another Conservative government, I would vote Liberal if I were you. Both the NDP and the Bloc formed a unofficial coalition with the Conservatives back in 2004, with Duceppe and Harper working together (along with Layton) so I could easily envision those two reuniting should the Conservatives form a minority government. I am not a Liberal junkie per se, but ousting Harper by aby means necessary is priority #1 to me. Thanks for the reply. I totally know how you feel about that last point and I know a lot of people I talk to feel the same way (granted the people I talk to all work in a similar field). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefcakeBo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 And in other news... http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/01/02/mulcair-ndp-proportional-representation_n_6407056.html and...http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/trudeau-announcing-plan-to-kill-first-past-the-post-by-the-next-election Can't wait to hear how the Cons paint much needed electoral reform as "evil"... This could be a good step in the right direction, but somewhat scares me about how bad this could get. All the motivation behind this from the NDP and Libs is getting a majority, the Conservative opposition to it is about not losing a majority. No one really seems to have Canada in the best interest here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This report goes to show how seriously screwed up this country is. There are two schools of media in this country just like the US. Conservative and Liberal and nobody in between. Mulcair and the NDP recently polled have pulled away from the other two parties.. Read the lettering of this story and figure it out. Why is the NDP such an "evil topic" to consider for government? ============================================================================================== What to do about Tom Mulcair? How to stop these upstart New Democrats? Spare a thought for rattled strategists in the Conservative and Liberal parties as they ponder the pollsters' reports. Trudeau's big democratic plan to pull Ottawa out of 'partisan swamp' MacKay proposes tougher penalties, fewer loopholes for impaired driving Mulcair says manufacturers will find a partner in NDP "NDP continues to rise as Liberals and Conservatives slide," warns EKOS Research. "Mulcair gains momentum, ties Harper for best PM,"says the Angus Reid Institute. No wonder Mulcair wore a big grin during his speech Tuesday to the Economic Club in Toronto. "Canadians are now seeing us as a government in waiting," he told reporters afterward. Well, maybe. There's still four months to go. But, from the other parties' viewpoints, it's scary. Somehow, what they're doing isn't working. Prime Minister Stephen Harper defended his record in the House of Commons Tuesday. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press) The Conservatives keep hammering away at their economic record — lower taxes and a balanced budget — and at their toughness on crime. Amid a flurry of speeches Tuesday from all three major parties, Justice Minister Peter MacKay tried to grab some attention for his pledge to increase penalties on drunk driving. Likewise, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau hyped, tweeted and crowed about his pledge of "real change" and transparency. Electoral reform! Half the cabinet will be women! And yet, record numbers of voters have been telling the pollsters they're listening to the NDP. According to Angus Reid, the Dippers have actually pulled ahead of the Conservatives by three points — 36 per cent to 33 per cent. Who's gravity-free now? And the Trudeau surge? That's so last year. Now, Angus Reid has the Liberals trailing badly at 23 per cent. They can't look to EKOS for comfort. That poll assigns the Liberals the same number — 23 per cent — which is just four points better than their disastrous showing in 2011. Even crueller, the Conservatives came in at 27 per cent — down 12 points from 2011 — while the NDP floats gravity-free at 33 per cent. That's two points higher than the record-high Orange Wave of four years ago. Wasn't gravity-free supposed to be Trudeau's thing? Liberal Party Leader Justin Trudeau was touting his plan for open and transparent government with a party brochure — call it the Liberal green book? — in Ottawa Tuesday. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press) Not anymore. And those nervous Conservative and Liberals strategists will find more alarming news in the details of these findings. Actually, the "geezer vote" is more than a detail. Those aged over 55 are a key demographic, because they actually turn out and vote in far greater numbers than the young, who tend to tell pollsters how progressive they are and then stay home on election day. So what is the 55-and-over crowd saying? Angus Reid says the Conservatives are holding on to 38 per cent of them. But the NDP, which had only 22 per cent of them six months ago, are up 11 points now at 33 per cent. And, if the Conservatives are holding steady, we can guess where the NDP's gain is coming from. Sure enough, the Liberals, who had 32 per cent six months ago, now stand 10 points lower, at 22 per cent of these older voters. Time was, voters keen to remove Harper were divided between the Liberals and the NDP — and they still are. But many of those who flocked to Trudeau's banner last year seem to be reconsidering. Again, the Liberals needn't go running to EKOS for a different story. EKOS puts the NDP squarely in the lead in all age groups up to age 64. Among those 65 and older, they're tied with the Liberals, and the Conservatives are ahead. The EKOS poll of 2,491 Canadian adults aged 18 and over was conducted June 3 to 9 for iPolitics. The random-sample interactive voice response survey has a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points. The Angus Reid Institute analyzed results from an online survey of 6,005 Canadian adults who are Angus Reid Forum panelists conducted May 26 to June 7. Everybody loves the middle class After Alberta, apparently, anything is possible. Rachel Notley's stunning NDP victory seems to have given voters ideas. So, the Conservatives and Liberals are scrambling to stomp on the NDP revival. And, just as energetically, the New Democrats are striving to seem as unthreatening as possible. Hence, the deep and abiding love all the parties profess for the middle class. Are you feeling middle class? Squeezed, indebted and struggling? Then prepare to be bombarded by promises, because you — young and old alike — are the most important demographic of all. Almost everyone thinks they're middle class. 'Canadians are now seeing us as a government in waiting,' NDP Leader Tom Mulcair told reporters after his speech Tuesday. (Havard Gould/CBC News) Mulcair, therefore, is sparing no effort to assure the middle class the NDP is the real, fiscally responsible party — unlike those reckless "old-line" parties. Consider his speech Tuesday, riddled with references to the NDP's record of "prudent fiscal management" in the provinces. The only exception, he said, "turned out to be a Liberal," a dart aimed at Bob Rae, the Dipper-turned-Liberal who once ran Ontario. "You have to do a good job of balancing the budget," Mulcair added. He even stole a line from the Conservatives to jab Trudeau: "I don't believe that budgets balance themselves." Justin Trudeau unveils Liberal platform3:17 Trudeau, in turn, stole one of the NDP's lines: electoral reform. The NDP has long supported an end to the first-past-the-post voting system and, now, Trudeau does, too. "We will ensure that electoral reform measures — such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting, and online voting — are fully and fairly studied and considered," he promised. Exactly what he'll pick was not specified — only that he'd do whatever he does within 18 months of being elected. First, he'll need to win. The polls, of course, could swing in his favour again, just as quickly as they swung toward Mulcair. Or maybe the great middle class isn't clamouring for change, after all. But time is running short for any one of the parties to come up with a winning strategy. Four months to voting day. Buy coffee for your local political activist. She's going to need it. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tom-mulcair-s-government-in-waiting-rattles-liberals-and-tories-1.3115913 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 With Gilles back in Quebec people are afraid this will eat NDP support. But the fact is the NDP is actually still polling quite strongly in Quebec. They are also now polling favourably in most of the maritimes and west into Alberta and BC. With the new electoral boundaries and ridings in Sask they also have their strongest polling their since the early 90's It is entirely possible people could see the NDP form their first government, be it minority or otherwise. And let's be completely honest. After 80 years of BS between Libs and Cons screwing things up. I would be happy to finally have a different party take power. If nothing else to slap the crap out of the arrogance of the Lib and Con parties. Maybe shake them in to some semblance of common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 With Gilles back in Quebec people are afraid this will eat NDP support. But the fact is the NDP is actually still polling quite strongly in Quebec. They are also now polling favourably in most of the maritimes and west into Alberta and BC. With the new electoral boundaries and ridings in Sask they also have their strongest polling their since the early 90's It is entirely possible people could see the NDP form their first government, be it minority or otherwise. And let's be completely honest. After 80 years of BS between Libs and Cons screwing things up. I would be happy to finally have a different party take power. If nothing else to slap the crap out of the arrogance of the Lib and Con parties. Maybe shake them in to some semblance of common sense It's also possible that I could win the lottery. The problem is the ideologies are so far apart between the Cons and the NDP that I find it nearly unfathomable that the majority of those who voted Conservative last time would vote NDP. It's not about who's garnering the most votes on the left, it's who can steal votes from the right. Believe it or not, the Liberal platform is slightly more palatable for a right winger than the NDP's platform. The Liberals plan to leave corporate tax rates alone, which appeals to the senses of the right wing voters. At the end of the day, the right wingers will vote Conservative. Alberta was a fluke, and I should know, I live there. The provincial government was so fiscally and ethically inept that voters had no choice. Despite the electoral victory, the new NDP government in Alberta has been greeted with scores of contempt from Albertans, despite the fact that they have barely been in power long enough to enact any policies yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It's also possible that I could win the lottery. The problem is the ideologies are so far apart between the Cons and the NDP that I find it nearly unfathomable that the majority of those who voted Conservative last time would vote NDP. It's not about who's garnering the most votes on the left, it's who can steal votes from the right. Believe it or not, the Liberal platform is slightly more palatable for a right winger than the NDP's platform. The Liberals plan to leave corporate tax rates alone, which appeals to the senses of the right wing voters. At the end of the day, the right wingers will vote Conservative. Alberta was a fluke, and I should know, I live there. The provincial government was so fiscally and ethically inept that voters had no choice. Despite the electoral victory, the new NDP government in Alberta has been greeted with scores of contempt from Albertans, despite the fact that they have barely been in power long enough to enact any policies yet.the majority didn't vote right last time. Harper's "majority" was less thsn 40% of the total votes. Also while NDP and Conservative ideologies may differ wildly people are starting to see that Liberal and Conservative ideologies are in fact very very close. So much so that their platforms are almost indistinguishable Same type just different jacket. Time for something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 NDP will lose support in Quebec, so there's a good chances they will lose Official Opposition status. From what I can see, a vote for the NDP is a vote for Stephen Harper. From the poll I posted last week: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/05/22/federal-ndp-poll-mulcair-ekos-tories-liberals_n_7422800.html Federal NDP Slightly Ahead Of Tories, Liberals, Poll Suggests Mulcair's team is also on top in battleground British Columbia at 32 per cent, followed by the Tories at 28 per cent and Liberals at 23 per cent. And in Quebec, the NDP is ahead at 29 per cent, followed by the Liberals at 26 per cent and Tories at 17 per cent.Quebec Survey Has More Good News For Mulcair Another poll released Friday suggests the NDP lead in Quebec, home of the "orange wave" that swept the party to official opposition status in 2011, is even bigger than the one highlighted by EKOS. According to a CROP survey published in La Presse, the NDP has jumped 11 percentage points in the province since last month. CROP now has the party sitting at 42 per cent support in Quebec, followed by the Liberals at 25 per cent, Tories at 15 per cent, and Bloc Quebecois at 13 per cent.The NDP, under late leader Jack Layton, won 59 Quebec seats in the last election with 43 per cent of the popular vote in the province. Perhaps a vote for the Liberals is a vote for Harper This could be a good step in the right direction, but somewhat scares me about how bad this could get. All the motivation behind this from the NDP and Libs is getting a majority, the Conservative opposition to it is about not losing a majority. No one really seems to have Canada in the best interest here? When a majority government is formed with only ~1/3 of voters and the other 2/3 being arguably more centre/left, there's a problem. When the Greens get 8% of the vote but are lucky to get one seat, there's a problem. The current system is not representative of voters actual intentions and wishes. It's a game of math and division, not representation. It may benefit the NDP/Liberals as well but voter reform is quite clearly in the best interest of the majority of Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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