Neko Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hank played in a much tougher era then Linden did. Just because Linden scored clutch goals, or had that "warm fuzzy feeling " whenever he spoke or did anything doesn't make him better. At the end of the day Linden was playing in a cap free world, and had the luxury of having a coach that was also the GM of the team. I remember Paul Coffey admitting on radio that had the stars of the 80s and 90's been born 10 or 15 years later they would never be stars because the goaltending has gotten much better,the goaltending equipment is much better and the defensive systems are much more advanced than they were in 94. Despite all of that, Hank not only had the equal amount of success Linden had but he had most successful era in Canucks History. Apollo normally throws around jokes with all of his posts so no one takes him seriously but for once he is not joking and is actually speaking the truth. If Sedin was Canadian and Trevor was Swedish there would be no debate that Hank is the better captain. But because that isn't the case we are having this silly debate trying to prove Linden was a better captain just cause he scored clutch goals in a easier era and gives you a warm fuzzy feeling everytime he speaks. If you throw your emotions out the door and look at it objectively there is no case you can make for Linden being better than hank. But the majority of people think with their emotions not their head so Linden is leading this poll. Tougher era? There aren't that many enforcers these days, Linden had to deal with face beaters back then and Linden was a 2-way player- closest player today comparing to Brad May, Rob Ray, Shane Churla, Rob Blake, Chris Chelios, Tony Twist, Tie Domi, Craig Coxe, Gino Odjick, etc. would be Dustin Bufygluin, Goerge Laroque, Evander Kane and Shea Weber and they don't play physically that much. And then Linden gets kicked while down by Messier during the 94 finals with cracked ribs and still played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I went with Henrik because of the overall body of work. Not to detract from Linden, but most of his eggs are from the 94 run basket. For me, Hank has 2011 plus more in the bank and more to come. The Twins always compliment Linden, though, so there's no wrong answer. I'm sure the Horvats of the team will speak the same about Henrik when it comes full circle. I never saw Smyl play so I won't comment and while I loved Nazzy he isn't in Linden or Sedin territory. ( though when the 3 shared a locker room he was the on-ice leader.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 You don't think Smyl had these characteristics? Oh he definitely did. I never said he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I can not view Hank in the same category as Linden. Linden got mugged in game 6 by Messier that by todays standards lol would cost Messier game 7 as a misconduct not to mention criminal charges! Linden responded with 2 goals in game 7. The first one was by splitting the D. IN A SC GAME 7!!! Both goals scored while playing with broken ribs, a broken finger and a broken nose. Hank disappeared in 2010-11 game 7 with no injuries. That's the difference between a good captain and a heart and soul great captain. That's not even mentioning Linden putting Wendel Clark through the glass the series before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronalds.Kenins41 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I can not view Hank in the same category as Linden. Linden got mugged in game 6 by Messier that by todays standards lol would cost Messier game 7 as a misconduct not to mention criminal charges! Linden responded with 2 goals in game 7. The first one was by splitting the D. IN A SC GAME 7!!! Both goals scored while playing with broken ribs, a broken finger and a broken nose. Hank disappeared in 2010-11 game 7 with no injuries. That's the difference between a good captain and a heart and soul great captain. That's not even mentioning Linden putting Wendel Clark through the glass the series before! Your kidding right? He had the most serious injury after Kesler and still broke a playoff record for points in a series. Get the facts straight before you say Hank wasn't a great captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 What injury would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Oh right the infamous mysterious back injury! Ya right! Sorry bud but you don't play and move like he did during the playoffs and after the playoffs with a back injury unless its a bruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cry me a freakin river! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 We've had a lot of quality Captains. But Trevor is still the straw that stirs the Canucks drink. The fact that he shall not be named has more votes than Kurtenbach disturbs me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Your kidding right? He had the most serious injury after Kesler and still broke a playoff record for points in a series. Get the facts straight before you say Hank wasn't a great captain. Oh ya and Im sick to freaking death of you young punks, still wet behind the ears, putting words in other peoples mouths. Just because Hank is the only captain you have ever seen for the Canucks on TV doesn't mean he's the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Cry me a freakin river! OK, have anything constructive to add here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadOgre Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Ya Linden is the greatest Captain the Canucks have ever seen ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpluto96 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Henrik is the obvious answer. - More points - Same team whole career - Also let to finals - More community effort (he and his brother put in 1.5M to Children's Hosp, Linden has nothing on that) Not entirely fair. Linden has done so much for the city and community ever since he was drafted and became a captain as a 21-year-old. Also don't forget how much more the players make today vs. the 90's so the dollar-figure needs to be put into perspective. You also don't know if TL put in any less. This is going to be personal opinion anyway influenced by age, upbringing and the type of player/character one prefers. We are blessed with great captains and there's no wrong answers here whether it's Linden, Steamer or Hank. Three of the most classy individuals you will ever find not only in hockey, but in general. Very different personalities hence different leadership skills. I became a Canucks fan in 93 so Linden was my choice. Watching him fighting in SCF94 with all the injuries and then the exhaustion after the final whistle with captain kirk was inspiring. Watching him down on one knee with tears in his eyes was very emotional and brought tears to my eyes. That feeling was never topped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 If people are going to vote based on statistical numbers and past achievements, than Mark Messier should be the unanimous winner. I mean, he does sit 2nd all-time in scoring, has a Conn Smythe, and six Cup rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 If people are going to vote based on statistical numbers and past achievements, than Mark Messier should be the unanimous winner. I mean, he does sit 2nd all-time in scoring, has a Conn Smythe, and six Cup rings. True, but the criteria for this thread was meant to be from Canucks history, not league history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 True, but the criteria for this thread was meant to be from Canucks history, not league history So...? Is Henrik only going to be the temporary place holder for best captain, until someone comes along, with the captaincy, overtakes him in franchise scoring, and so forth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bo Horvat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 So...? Is Henrik only going to be the temporary place holder for best captain, until someone comes along, with the captaincy, overtakes him in franchise scoring, and so forth? Yes? That's the whole point... you're the best until there's someone better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 If people are going to vote based on statistical numbers and past achievements, than Mark Messier should be the unanimous winner. I mean, he does sit 2nd all-time in scoring, has a Conn Smythe, and six Cup rings. This is a Canucks poll and he did squat for us, his achievements for other teams are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxieMan98 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bo Horvat Oh wait it's not 2025 Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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