babych Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I, for one, am eagerly looking forward to the LHC being turned back on this year. The discovery of the Higgs boson was incredible - now the LHC has been upgraded to produce energies twice that magnitude. Link: http://www.iflscience.com/physics/large-hadron-collider-might-reveal-extra-dimensions Article: Physics Large Hadron Collider Could Detect Extra Dimensions March 19, 2015 | by Stephen Luntz Photo credit: Mopic via Shutterstock. If gravity is draining out of tiny black holes into other dimensions, the LHC may find it A paper in Physics Letters B has raised the possibility that the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) could make a discovery that would put its previous triumph with the Higgs Boson in the shade. The authors suggest it could detect mini black holes. Such a finding would be a matter of huge significance on its own, but might be an indication of even more important things. Few ideas from theoretical physics capture the public imagination as much as the “many-worlds hypothesis,” which proposes an infinite number of universes that differ from our own in ways large and small. The idea has provided great fodder for science fiction writers and comedians. However, according to Professor Mir Faizal from the University of Waterloo, "Normally, when people think of the multiverse, they think of the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, where every possibility is actualized," he said to Phys.org. "This cannot be tested and so it is philosophy and not science." Nonetheless, Faizal considers the test for a different sort of parallel universes almost within our grasp. “What we mean is real universes in extra dimensions,” says Faizal. “As gravity can flow out of our universe into the extra dimensions, such a model can be tested by the detection of mini black holes at the LHC.” The idea that the universe may be filled with minute black holes has been proposed to explain puzzles such as the nature of dark matter. However, the energy required to create such objects depends on the number of dimensions the universe has. In a conventional four-dimensional universe, these holes would require 1016 TeV, 15 orders of magnitude beyond the capacity of the LHC to produce. String theory, on the other hand, proposes 10 dimensions, six of which have been wrapped up so we can't experience them. Attempts to model such a universe suggest that the energy required to make these tiny black holes would be a great deal smaller, so much so that some scientists believe they should have been detected in experiments the LHC has already run. So if no detection, no string theory? Not according to Faizal and his co-authors. They argue that the models used to predict the energy of the black holes in a 10-dimensional universe have left out quantum deformation of spacetime that changes gravity slightly. Whether this deformation is real is a rapidly developing question, but if it is, the paper argues that the black holes will have energy levels much smaller than in a four-dimensional universe, but about twice as large as that detectable for any test run so far. The LHC is designed to reach 14 TeV, but so far has only gone to 5.3 TeV, while the paper thinks the holes might be lurking at 11.9 TeV. In this case, once the LHC reaches its full capacity, we should find them. Such a discovery would demonstrate the microscale deformation of spacetime, the existence of extra dimensions, parallel universes within them and string theory. If found at the right energy levels, the holes would confirm the team's interpretation of a new theory on black hole behavior named gravity's rainbow, after the influential novel. Such an astonishing quadruple revelation would transform physics, although the researchers are already considering the most likely flaws in their work if the holes prove elusive. -end article There is also the possibility that the LHC may detect sparticles (super-particles), thus confirming Super-symmetry. Please keep this discussion to science. Thanks, b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 not sure if they should mess around with such things just like the nuclear bombs in the 40s and 50s messing around with things we dont know their long term effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgson!! Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Dark matter plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Boom goes the dynamite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 And this brings me back to the question: do we really know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 And this brings me back to the question: do we really know anything? Maybe you're a brain in some alien vat and we're all figments of imagination. Maybe that's actually true for me and none of you exist. Scary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Maybe you're a brain in some alien vat and we're all figments of imagination. Maybe that's actually true for me and none of you exist. Scary? Not scary as much as it is mind-numbing if you think on it too long. It's like (for those that believe this) how predestination and free will co-exist. But that's another subject for another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Maybe you're a brain in some alien vat and we're all figments of imagination. Maybe that's actually true for me and none of you exist. Scary? Not scary as much as it is mind-numbing if you think on it too long. It's like (for those that believe this) how predestination and free will co-exist. But that's another subject for another time. I think; therefore I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I think; therefore I am. Easy there Descartes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I think; therefore I am. Fite me bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I worry they are going to open a can of worms that can't close the lid on. Think nuclear to the power of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Fite me bro. But you might not really exist. I'm only certain that I exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I worry they are going to open a can of worms that can't close the lid on. Think nuclear to the power of 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 But you might not really exist. I'm only certain that I exist. No, you are fake. I exist. I can't prove it though so take it on faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 No, you are fake. I exist. I can't prove it though so take it on faith. This debate is going to end up with everyone saying everyone else is fake and they are real. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I worry they are going to open a can of worms that can't close the lid on. Think nuclear to the power of 10 If they break the planet, they bought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 The LHC is slowly ramping up, accelerating test particles and checking alignment. Full speed should be achieved in May. Like the last time it fired up, I doubt the general public will receive anything of note for many months after. The amount of data generated is stunning, and they still have come nowhere near processing it all from its previous run. As an astrophysics fan I'm very excited. I worry they are going to open a can of worms that can't close the lid on. Think nuclear to the power of 10 There is no scientific evidence that this is even remotely possible. Think being incorrect. Should humans survive any number of actual end of the world (as we know it) scenarios future generations will more than likely look back on these experiments as the stepping stone to major technology breakthroughs. Think about this: when Heinrich Hertz discovered radio waves in the 1880's people would not have been able to speculate on the vast applications that would arrive over 100 years later. As an example, here we are using them to discuss science from different areas the world over. Understanding, and possibly controlling, particles on the atomic and subatomic level is where our next major leap forward will come from. It's already happening, albeit slowly, with advances in quantum physics. Very exciting time indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Easy there Descartes wait... that's my line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I yam what I yam! Popeye The Sailor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 every new discovery only brings more questions. proving how little we know. and that we are just getting started. damn i want to live to see the technological singularity. thats gonna be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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