Matt_T83 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So, I must admit I used to be one of the biggest critics of Sbisa. The guy is still a +/- nightmare. Most of that is his fault... If +/- was weighted better to give -3 to a player for a single goal against where he committed a clear error, his +/- would be even worse (currently -9). But what I really like from him, and is making me re-consider my disdain for him overall, is his physical play. It's very noticeable every time Sbisa is on the ice that he finishes his checks and punishes players entering the zone. This physical play is probably the one BIGGEST factor missing in the Canucks' play in the past 5 years. I think it's pretty much generally concluded that the Canucks, while a very skilled team, just aren't "difficult" to play against. So I'm glad Sbisa is helping to change that. With Bieksa, Dorsett, Kenins, and Sbisa we are finally becoming slightly tougher to play against. Now if we can only get Kassian to play mean hockey and finish his checks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So, I must admit I used to be one of the biggest critics of Sbisa. The guy is still a +/- nightmare. Most of that is his fault... If +/- was weighted better to give -3 to a player for a single goal against where he committed a clear error, his +/- would be even worse (currently -9). But what I really like from him, and is making me re-consider my disdain for him overall, is his physical play. It's very noticeable every time Sbisa is on the ice that he finishes his checks and punishes players entering the zone. This physical play is probably the one BIGGEST factor missing in the Canucks' play in the past 5 years. I think it's pretty much generally concluded that the Canucks, while a very skilled team, just aren't "difficult" to play against. So I'm glad Sbisa is helping to change that. With Bieksa, Dorsett, Kenins, and Sbisa we are finally becoming slightly tougher to play against. Now if we can only get Kassian to play mean hockey and finish his checks.... Kind of hard with a messed up back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Still young. He is also a very underrated skater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanghai owey Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I agree, he's still learning the ropes of the nHl and at only 25, with better understanding of the game as his career goes on in addition to his physical play, he can be a top 4 defenceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 As much "potential" as he has, he sometimes just makes extremely stupid plays that lead to goals. I'm not sure if his +/- is because of playing with bieska or just some bad luck, which seems to happen to him often (IE lack letting in a bad goal or someone else not covering there check) Mind you Horvat is -4 but, has definitely played better than that indicates. MY GRAMMAR SUCKS RIGHT NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Wonder if they'll give him a try on the 2nd pp, instead of Hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So, I must admit I used to be one of the biggest critics of Sbisa. The guy is still a +/- nightmare. Most of that is his fault... If +/- was weighted better to give -3 to a player for a single goal against where he committed a clear error, his +/- would be even worse (currently -9). But what I really like from him, and is making me re-consider my disdain for him overall, is his physical play. It's very noticeable every time Sbisa is on the ice that he finishes his checks and punishes players entering the zone. This physical play is probably the one BIGGEST factor missing in the Canucks' play in the past 5 years. I think it's pretty much generally concluded that the Canucks, while a very skilled team, just aren't "difficult" to play against. So I'm glad Sbisa is helping to change that. With Bieksa, Dorsett, Kenins, and Sbisa we are finally becoming slightly tougher to play against. Now if we can only get Kassian to play mean hockey and finish his checks.... I have similar feelings about Sbisa. At the beginning of the season I was very negative about Sbisa but Willie was patient with him (one of many reasons WD is a much better coach than I would ever be). And Sbisa has improved. But he still makes too many bad plays. As for +/-, he has played a lot of top 4 minutes (unlike Stanton or Clendening) but, even so, he needs to improve. So I continue to be unsure about him and I am not sure what JB will do about him in the summer given the fairly high cost of giving him a qualifying offer and the cap pressure the Canucks will experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I have similar feelings about Sbisa. At the beginning of the season I was very negative about Sbisa but Willie was patient with him (one of many reasons WD is a much better coach than I would ever be). And Sbisa has improved. But he still makes too many bad plays. As for +/-, he has played a lot of top 4 minutes (unlike Stanton or Clendening) but, even so, he needs to improve. So I continue to be unsure about him and I am not sure what JB will do about him in the summer given the fairly high cost of giving him a qualifying offer and the cap pressure the Canucks will experience. If a team qualifies him we get a 2nd round pick. The question is would someone qualify him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Kind of hard with a messed up back.. What's been his excuse then, for the last 4 years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Same here. He's been quiet, in a good way. The most impressive thing I've noticed about him is his ability to read the Sedins. He reads when they're going low and rings it around, and notices when they're coming high giving him leeway to pinch. I was really impressed with a give and go play he made with Hank last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Kind of hard with a messed up back.. Its not his back, its between the ears. You got to want to get dirty game after game like Dorsett does. Excuses for Kassian wont stop until he quits hockey or is traded I guess. If its not his back its his hand. If its not his hand its his linemates. If its not his linemates its his ice time. And on and on it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Anyone got a gif or clip of his hit last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Spisa is an RFA. Question, does he get resigned since the new Tanev contract? Edler 5.0, Bieksa 4.6, Hamhuis 4.5, Tanev 4.45, Spisa 2.175.....the rest are all under $1M (I have to think that Weber is playing himself into a new contract especially since he is such a bargain) The Canucks will be tight to the cap, so does Spisa walk or does one of the older vet's move (Bieksa, Hamhuis), or does Benning get more creative? Spisa is only 25 so his age is to his benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I like Sbisa, I'd rather see Hammer or Bieksa go before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think Sbisa is worth another year at the mid 2 mil range. With regards to the cap, are there any FA's worth chasing? Especially considering we're trying to keep some spots open for young guys to fight over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Defense is still a huge problem on this team, we are still missing that puck moving offensive D. Going to be hard to get one with Hamhuis and Bieksa eating up 9 mill of the cap. IMO Bieksa's time here is up. He will either play out his contract or get asked to waive his NTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I like Sbisa, I'd rather see Hammer or Bieksa go before him. Hammer... Bieksa has played well the last couple games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think Sbisa is worth another year at the mid 2 mil range. With regards to the cap, are there any FA's worth chasing? Especially considering we're trying to keep some spots open for young guys to fight over. I don't think there are many big name ufas this year, mainly trade deadline rentals. Best way to build would be through a trade. There is Mike Green, but the chances of getting him are slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think there are many big name ufas this year, mainly trade deadline rentals. Best way to build would be through a trade. True, cap space is always valuable in some regard. Still, with our NTCs and such trades aren't as easy to come by, especially since I don't see us trading to take on big contracts. (Maybe vet for vet hockey deal?) Point being, I think we can afford to give Sbisa what he's worth, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 So, I must admit I used to be one of the biggest critics of Sbisa. The guy is still a +/- nightmare. Most of that is his fault... If +/- was weighted better to give -3 to a player for a single goal against where he committed a clear error, his +/- would be even worse (currently -9). But what I really like from him, and is making me re-consider my disdain for him overall, is his physical play. It's very noticeable every time Sbisa is on the ice that he finishes his checks and punishes players entering the zone. This physical play is probably the one BIGGEST factor missing in the Canucks' play in the past 5 years. I think it's pretty much generally concluded that the Canucks, while a very skilled team, just aren't "difficult" to play against. So I'm glad Sbisa is helping to change that. With Bieksa, Dorsett, Kenins, and Sbisa we are finally becoming slightly tougher to play against. Now if we can only get Kassian to play mean hockey and finish his checks.... Agreed. Sbisa's physical element rivals that of Bieksa's. You can't replace a defenceman like that so easily. Edler makes a ton of mistakes. It's just a reality that you have to accept when you're a defenceman. People make mistakes and that's hockey for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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