Lockout Casualty Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 So, just asking, does all of its wonderful forms include incest, rape, and bestiality? I hate to bring these up, but it begged the question. And you can't judge, because you said "accepted...without judgment". Yeah, no one likes double standards, but they just sort of happen anyway. That's the problem with society. Some judge, others don't. Double you tee eff?! Am I reading this right? Are you not familiar with the concept of consent? Neither animals, nor rape victims give it. His statement didn't beg the questions you posed. At all. I'm with you JR. Man, does it ever occur to you how Sharpshooter would react around CDC these days? Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 No but you said that all of its wonderful forms should be accepted. Why should they be illegal then? Yeah. Why do you believe that? Also, it seems like culture just views sex as a narcotic now. Just saying. Did you just ask why rape should be illegal? Believe what? It seems like your projecting your own subjective (and ignorant) opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Did you just ask why rape should be illegal? Believe what? It seems like your projecting your own subjective (and ignorant) opinion. Now you're just twisting his words.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Did you just ask why rape should be illegal? Believe what? Well, you did say sex should be accepted in all of its wonderful forms. And I think some people do find it wonderful, even though it's very weird and very, very wrong. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the concept of it in the first place. Believe this: As for porn, the quantity/availability is not an issue IMO. The problem is the quality. The best way to fix that IMO is to actually allow women to more openly express THEIR needs, desires and address their pleasure in porn than what has traditionally been seen in more male oriented material. The best way to do that is to keep moving forward in removing judgement on women who enjoy sex as much as men do and allow them to express that more fully. On video or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think the western world in particular needs to tone it down abit or maybe alot, and the mainly conservative Middle East and surrounding areas need to tone it up a bit lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Good grief... MGTOW Men/Man Going Their Own Way. MGTOW is basically the statement of self-ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals in life should be. It is saying that, as a man I will not surrender my will to the social expectations of women and society, because both have become hostile against masculinity. Male 1: Dude, why don't you have a girl friend? Male 2: Its not for me bro, I'm a MGTOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, you did say sex should be accepted in all of its wonderful forms. And I think some people do find it wonderful, even though it's very weird and very, very wrong. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the concept of it in the first place. Believe this: Rape is not sex, is not consensual and is not legal. That you're even asking the question is making me question why I'm bothering even responding to you. You're going to have to be more specific. Why wouldn't I believe that? As women are more freely aloud to express themselves sexually we're bound to get more realistic representations of sex that better represents what women like/want. Just like any other previously male dominated aspect of society. As women's voices expand in aspects of society we get a more accurate/representative view of said aspect. Porn will be no different and will eventually evolve along with society. That porn exists or is readily available isn't the issue. That it's largely not accurate/representative is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You're going to have to be more specific. Why wouldn't I believe that? As women are more freely aloud to express themselves sexually we're bound to get more realistic representations of sex that better represents what women like/want. Just like any other previously male dominated aspect of society. As women's voices expand in aspects of society we get a more accurate/representative view of said aspect. Porn will be no different and will eventually evolve along with society. That porn exists or is readily available isn't the issue. That it's largely not accurate/representative is. You really don't know a lot of what goes on behind the scenes, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You really don't know a lot of what goes on behind the scenes, do you? I really don't think you should be condemning anyone about not knowing what goes on in regards to anything sex related. I'm well aware of the seedy underbelly of the porn industry. Again, making it more open (and less astoundingly male oriented/controlled) is the way to correct those issues. Porn itself is not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You really don't know a lot of what goes on behind the scenes, do you? Please enlighten us, oh wise one. /s ROFL at you accusing others of ignorance. Just ROFL. I don't think it gets more ignorant than virgins discussing sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Please enlighten us, oh wise one. /s ROFL at you accusing others of ignorance. Just ROFL. I don't think it gets more ignorant than virgins discussing sex. Teenage girls make up the largest slice of viewable porn, which by definition is human trafficking. In 9 countries that were sampled in a study, 49% said that porn was made of them while they were in prostitution. You don't like human trafficking? Fighting that and then watching porn is like protesting a corrupt politician and then donating to his campaign. It's basically trafficking at your fingertips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Teenage girls make up the largest slice of viewable porn, which by definition is human trafficking. In 9 countries that were sampled in a study, 49% said that porn was made of them while they were in prostitution. You don't like human trafficking? Fighting that and then watching porn is like protesting a corrupt politician and then donating to his campaign. It's basically trafficking at your fingertips. By what definition? What nine countries? Can you show that there is overlap between what I watch and those 49%? Before you suggest I'm contributing to human trafficking, I suggest you make a good case for it first. I should probably leave this thread before I say something ban-worthy in response to your idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Good grief... MGTOWMen/Man Going Their Own Way.MGTOW is basically the statement of self-ownership and saying that only you have the right to decide what your goals in life should be.It is saying that, as a man I will not surrender my will to the social expectations of women and society, because both have become hostile against masculinity.Male 1: Dude, why don't you have a girl friend?Male 2: Its not for me bro, I'm a MGTOW.Sure, in name. Just liek the nazis were a socialist party in name (not making a moral equivalency tho). THe two MGTOW proponents in this thread seem more concerned with the prevalence of fetishes. The MGOTW on reddit are mostly just complaining about how poorly they are treated by women. Neither is going their own way. They are just complaining online about their discomfort.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butters Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, you did say sex should be accepted in all of its wonderful forms. And I think some people do find it wonderful, even though it's very weird and very, very wrong. Otherwise, we wouldn't have the concept of it in the first place.Since its not clear to you, consent is implied. Use your common sense. If you don't, people will just assume you don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Since its not clear to you, consent is implied. Use your common sense. If you don't, people will just assume you don't have any. The evidence is pretty conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 threads like these are good because people give themselves enough rope. don't even have to argue, people just sorta reveal themselves. like in that mess of a 'girl walks down the street and is sexually harassed' thread. this forum is full of clueless people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sure, in name. Just liek the nazis were a socialist party in name (not making a moral equivalency tho). THe two MGTOW proponents in this thread seem more concerned with the prevalence of fetishes. The MGOTW on reddit are mostly just complaining about how poorly they are treated by women. Neither is going their own way. They are just complaining online about their discomfort.. Why do you keep labeling us as proponents of MGTOW... If anything we are anti-MGTOW.. I seriously dont get where you're getting this from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 threads like these are good because people give themselves enough rope. don't even have to argue, people just sorta reveal themselves. like in that mess of a 'girl walks down the street and is sexually harassed' thread. this forum is full of clueless people You have your views and we have ours... nothing alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Why do you keep labeling us as proponents of MGTOW... If anything we are anti-MGTOW.. I seriously dont get where you're getting this from. He likely made the connection with your backwards and ignorant views on sex and MGTOW's backwards, ignorant views on women in general and came to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 He likely made the connection with your backwards and ignorant views on sex and MGTOW's backwards, ignorant views on women in general. Well that's a pretty well off connection or asseration.. Just because we adovcate modesty doesn't mean we are anti-women or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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