Off_The_Schneid! Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 A very under rated trade was getting clendenning An injury riddance defence could have cost us the season but picking up an nhl ready defenseman to slot in went a long way Baertshi is on fire since coming to the comets Sbisa has proven to be a very capable defenseman with a physicality we were lacking People read to far into the vey trade, the prospect we would have most likely picked was a throw away by LA for a bottom 6 Defenceman The only mis step in my opinion was not trading Mathias at the deadline Would have gotten a hefty return, however if he's a factor in the playoffs then I will stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hmmm tough to put a percentage on it but I voted 85% Won the lui and Bonino trade Great signings in Miller and Vrbata Good trades for Pedan, Vey and Sven Hired a great coach along with Trevor. Won 2015 Stanley Cup Bad move letting Santorelli walk Bad move not acquiring anyone at the deadline as this team is clearly a cup contender I'm very happy with him so far. He should stop saying real good and real well though. It's getting out of hand. Gillis trade luongo And willie says real good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Cup or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I'm waiting to judge Benning until I see how he acts moving into the draft when he has all the tools to make some waves. Some people keep saying that him not getting rid of aging contracts was good, but you're looking at that from the perspective of seeing us doing quite well going into the playoffs. Had we had a poor March/April, you all would have been screaming for Benning's head. I still think that at the end of the season, we need to unload some contracts for draft picks. There is just not enough space on our roster to bring up young players ready to make the jump. I also think if we can get a 1st/2nd for Miller, then we should be looking to make that trade as well. Lack is still relatively inexperienced, but he has shown he has the ability to lead this team in the win column. That is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Gillis trade luongo And willie says real good. Who said anything about luongo??? I said lui... Lu... The freight train. The one and only lui... Luca sbisa. JB and Willie say real good /well equally as much from every interview I've heard lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Cherry Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Considering the confidence this team plays with right now, this team is a complete opposite from the end of last season. This time last year St. Louis would have crushed us. Just wait till our rookies get into the lineup, the next 3-5 years are going to be some of the most exciting in Canucks history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 JB has done some great things, but let's not forget the Sedins resurgence and Horvats play. Kenins too. Edler has had a big bounce back year as well. I say B+. An A if we make any sort of run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Who said anything about luongo??? I said lui... Lu... The freight train. The one and only lui... Luca sbisa. JB and Willie say real good /well equally as much from every interview I've heard lol My mistake. And i never noticed Benning say real good like Willie has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Look at the drafts. All the players we missed out on, the last 2 drafts have been our strongest in a while. Before that we were not that great at drafting. Other than Horvat and Hodgson their 1st rounders havent been strong. Gaunce, Shinkaruk, and Jensen will most likely play in the NHL, but not a top end talent you seek for in the 1st round. Outside of the 1st round we have only hit a few that will hopefully make the NHL. Cassels (could be a 5th round steal), Hutton, Subban, maybe a couple more. Point is none have really high ceilings. IMO we have drafted very poorly under Gillis. Gillis's drafting was no worse than his predecessors....The Canucks were victims of their own success,usually picking 25-39..That's almost the 2nd round,no garuntee of an NHL player there . I think the Gillis regime failed picking in the later rounds....but his first round picks were par for the course..Unlike Nonis who picked an outright bust in Patrick White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honky Cat Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Look at the drafts. All the players we missed out on, the last 2 drafts have been our strongest in a while. Before that we were not that great at drafting. Other than Horvat and Hodgson their 1st rounders havent been strong. Gaunce, Shinkaruk, and Jensen will most likely play in the NHL, but not a top end talent you seek for in the 1st round. Outside of the 1st round we have only hit a few that will hopefully make the NHL. Cassels (could be a 5th round steal), Hutton, Subban, maybe a couple more. Point is none have really high ceilings. IMO we have drafted very poorly under Gillis. Gillis's drafting was no worse than his predecessors....The Canucks were victims of their own success,usually picking 25-39..That's almost the 2nd round,no garuntee of an NHL player there . I think the Gillis regime failed picking in the later rounds....but his first round picks were par for the course..Unlike Nonis who picked an outright bust in Patrick White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 In what country did you learn your rounding skills? There's no more a GM can do in the current season, his lineup is where it is, its what the Canucks will either make the playoffs with, or fail. Do you think Jim Bennings deals pre-season, and during the season have improved the Canucks? And how much? How would you score his acquisitions and trades? ---- From my perspective, everything he has done this season has been a positive. - Perhaps the biggest decision was the Willie Desjardins signing as coach... how much of this was Linden and how much was Benning is difficult to say, but certainly I would have to say this was a successful move. WD has taken a team which was in a state of shock and complete lack of confidence at the end of last season, and re-instilled their sense of confidence, brought back their team spirit, and created a locker room which has bonded the veterans and the newcomers. I'm rating the WD hiring at a 90% score - Kesler Trade is a win by my books. Bonino hasn't produced like Kesler, but he has been a decent 2nd line center... and he wasn't the only piece acquired, Sbisa has been an overall plus, adding toughness to our defense and improving as the season went on. And we have McCann in our prospects pool. I'm rating the Kesler trade at 85% score - Miller signing is also a win. Miller has a 28-15-1 record, he stabilized the Canucks early with some big wins, allowed them to regain their swagger, gave them back their confidence. He has also allowed Eddie Lack to progress in a normal learning curve, instead of being thrown to the wolves like last year. Yes he is injured now, but that is no reflection on Benning. I'm rating the Miller acquisition at 85% score - Vrbata signing is the single best free agent forward signing of the year. Dollar for dollar, Vrbata has delivered, he has given this team a bonifide star to balance the loss of Kesler... in fact, I'd say he is a better overall player than Kesler. Vrbata makes the rest of the league worry about something other than shutting down the Sedins, and gives the Canucks a much needed 2nd line threat. At this point, he is the team's MVP by my estimation. I'm rating the Vrbata signing at 100% score - I am going to group the remaining of Benning's smaller deals together, by that I mean give him a combined rating for Dorsett, Vey, McMillan, etc. I would say all these less expensive acquisitions have been a general success... especially Dorsett. He gave the Canucks a much needed edge, especially in the early part of the season, and allowed the Sedins and other finesse players some more room. Vey is a overall positive addition, he has his weak nights, but for a rookie, he is putting up decent numbers. McMillan is a inexpensive fill-in who has done what was expected. None of these players have fallen on their faces. I even give Benning a nod for bringing Kenins at the start of the season from Europe over to Utica, and giving him a chance to prove what his ability is. Benning was not responsible for the original signing, that was Gillis's work. I'm rating Benning's smaller signings at a 75% score - What Benning has not done. I am also going to give him a rating for the players who had bad seasons last year, but who he has chosen to not move, and instead to hold onto. I'm talking about Edler, Burrows, Hansen, Lack, Kassian, etc. I think Benning made the correct decision for all these players. He could have panicked as some members of this board have, and unloaded these players at bargain basement prices. Instead he held onto them, and allowed WD to rebuild their confidence, and let them know they were valued within the organization. I'm rating Benning's 'no trade' decisions at an 85% score I could put up a rating for his draft choices...but we really don't know at this point...will need to wait till the future to tell us how his picks work out. ----- So I am taking the 6 catagories, adding the total score, and dividing by 6... my score for Benning's year as GM is 86.6%.... I am rounding it to 85%. What's your score for Benning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved_by_Jesus Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 In what country did you learn your rounding skills? What? He did it right. Have you been criticizing every merchant's rounding skills since the penny has been discontinued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laoag Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 only beef i have with benning is he let santo walk and traded for vey. Santo would have made us a better team than vey and we would also have an addition 2nd round pick in the cupboard. so i gave him a 90% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Gave him 85%. Clearly some great moves with Vrbata at the top of the list, but also Baertschi, Pedan (before his concussion) up there for me. Good ones include the Kesler trade (under the circumstances), Clendenning and Dorsett, also WD as coach and the solid stocking of our Utica farm team. Not so sure about Miller and Garrison for Vey but they were reasonable moves at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The only 2 deals he made that I don't like are the Garrison trade and the Vey trade. I understand that we needed to get rid of some of the overpaid D-core we had, but he could've gotten a better return for a top 4 D man. The I don't like the Vey trade because of the kind of player Vey is. If you're going to trade for a centre of his size to play in the west, you have to make sure they at least have an aggressive, tenacious game and that certainly doesn't describe Vey's game. Granted I do have hindsight to lean back on, so there's that. The Kesler trade was great considering the situation that unfolded, and the Vrbata signing is looking amazing as well. I also like the Pedan and Baertschi trades. The Miller signing was crucial for where we were in terms of goaltending at the beginning of the year. I like the direction that this team is headed and I like the fact that JB is not afraid to pull the trigger on a trade. Hopefully a couple of the older players get traded at draft day which allows us to accomodate some of the young guys coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laoag Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 A very under rated trade was getting clendenning An injury riddance defence could have cost us the season but picking up an nhl ready defenseman to slot in went a long way Baertshi is on fire since coming to the comets Sbisa has proven to be a very capable defenseman with a physicality we were lackingPeople read to far into the vey trade, the prospect we would have most likely picked was a throw away by LA for a bottom 6 Defenceman The only mis step in my opinion was not trading Mathias at the deadline Would have gotten a hefty return, however if he's a factor in the playoffs then I will stand corrected but i would rather Santo over vey and that way we could take a chance on developing that 2nd round pick. thats not reading very far. benning though vey was something more than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I gave Benning a interim 85% as his true performance will be running to the 2015 Draft Day. Benning's challenge coming in was establishing a new roster time line towards a serious CUP challenge. That challenge will not happen with the existing veteran core. That is not a put down of those vets but simply a reflection of age and overall depth within the org. Benning has made strides in last year's draft and acquistions during the year, the biggest being the Kesler trade. I consider all existing vets being trade options. Any player 28 or older. Obviously not all those vets will be moved. Vancouver does not want a repeat of the Oiler program. Hopefully Miller will be traded, 2 forward skaters and a dman. That level of movement will be monumental in Canuck terms as that has never happened in their history. If Van goes out of the 1st Round quickly it provides JB with more of a rationale to make the deals necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I gave Benning a interim 85% as his true performance will be running to the 2015 Draft Day. Benning's challenge coming in was establishing a new roster time line towards a serious CUP challenge. That challenge will not happen with the existing veteran core. That is not a put down of those vets but simply a reflection of age and overall depth within the org. Benning has made strides in last year's draft and acquistions during the year, the biggest being the Kesler trade. I consider all existing vets being trade options. Any player 28 or older. Obviously not all those vets will be moved. Vancouver does not want a repeat of the Oiler program. Hopefully Miller will be traded, 2 forward skaters and a dman. That level of movement will be monumental in Canuck terms as that has never happened in their history. If Van goes out of the 1st Round quickly it provides JB with more of a rationale to make the deals necessary. Agree that this level of movement would be desirable but doubt that it's likely. I think it was easier to get tough with Garrison last year when JB had no history with the players. After a relatively successful season this year, it will be harder to make the hard moves. If he moves even 2 vets whose contracts haven't expired, that will be a lot imo. Still hope it happens though, with Miller at the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Over all I'd have to say he's been pretty good. He came in with an early flurry which i think pleased most fans. I'm not sure gifting Clendening and Baertschi a roster spot next season is good. But I understand the need to bring in players of that age group and who knows hopefully both players can genuinely make the roster on merit. Maybe Miller signing was longer than I'd have liked but maybe it was take it or leave it from Miller. The Kesler deal was considering he had his hands tied was OK. Kesler does have 5 more goals than Bonino but the Cap space saving was part of the reason Vrbata could be signed is a plus. I question the Sbisa pick up but suspect it was little more than a Cap dump by the Ducks, how he's handled this summer will tell a lot. Is Benning big enough to not give Sbisa a qualify offer of $2.9 million, is he big enough to try and waive Clendening if he's little better than what we saw this season. I want to know if JB can be a hard a$$ as well as the nice guy, is that unreasonable. Heck he's only been on the job for less than a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 He makes great trades, his drafting is good, and he had a very clear idea of what he wants the team to be. His signings haven't been exceptional, but good. I don't know of he will ever be a Gillis though. Gillis got guys like Tanev, Kenins, Lack, Stanton for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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