hockeydude474 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 http://www.tsn.ca/sedins-need-help-from-supporting-cast-1.264333 Check out the link: I would have copy pasted it into this thread but the link has some really staggering statistical visualizations (i.e graphs, tables) Basically what the article is saying is that the Canucks have absolutely no depth in this series and the Sedins have been quite dominant in terms of puck possession numbers. Supposedly the Flames have yet to score on the Sedin line 5 on 5 yet their depth is completely dominating ours, statistically speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 But what's their +/-?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuongo Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 2nd line sucks. After watching Kesler just now, I am very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Give up on corsi already. The best corsi teams didn't even make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 But what's their +/-?? both +1 Edler and tanev both +3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckleheadFan Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I guess that's why teams like the Kings and Ducks do well when they have 2 or more lines dominating and threat to score. We had our 3rd line produce early on, but not much support lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Corsi is bogus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I guess that's why teams like the Kings and Ducks do well when they have 2 or more lines dominating and threat to score. We had our 3rd line produce early on, but not much support lately. We have secondary scoring this regular season, they disappeared so far in playoffs. D core never scored enough, and I think this is a big problem during playoffs when team clog up the slot. Look at how hawks win their OT games, D men shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 2nd line sucks. After watching Kesler just now, I am very sad.yeah bonino looks slow and injured except for game 2. Vrbata looks hurt also. Higgins has been ok but nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Corsi isn't bogus. It's not full proof, but it's a good indicator. Sedins have dominated all series but unfortunately haven't done the most important thing... Putting the puck in the net. Hopefully their fortunes turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The Sedins are good at keep the puck? What's Bennett's age? I hear Ferland's mom was at the game. She can go out with Lack's dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You can't expect two 34 year olds to carry a team no matter the circumstances. The Canucks demise lies therein, they should have been second liners for us at this point with youth taking the reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Corsi doesn't directly equal to win but it is the best proxy we have at the moment on player performance on the ice. And this article basically tells us that the Sedins have been doing their part. So I think playing them 19, 20 minutes in tomorrow's game is a good idea. What's the point of keeping them fresh if the season is to end tomorrow? And let's see if Baertschi-Bonino-Vrbata line can be of help. My guess is they will. This was my thought after the Oilers game that Baertschi could be the difference maker in a series like this. I hope my guess is right. If we had Matthias-Richardson-Kassian line intact, this series might have been very different. They could've provided that support to the Sedins. After reading the article, I think an interesting line combo to try would be: Sedin-Sedin-Kenins Baertschi-Bonino-Vrbata Higgins-Matthias-McMillan Dorsett-Horvat-Hansen 1. Dorsett-Horvat-Hansen They can hit and crash the net to create chances. Dorsett is better than Kenins when it comes to going to the net and fighting for puck along the boards. We need to crash the net more so that's why I think this line combo will work well. -Sedin-Sedin-Kenins Most people think that Vrbata is the answer and I do think so too but then, this would make the second line weaker. But as stated in the article, the Sedins need support. So that's why I think Vrbata stays on the second line hoping that the chemistry between Baertschi-Bonino-Vrbata that we saw against Edmonton can be repeated. If it does, we will win this game. Kenins was chosen mainly because I think of him as Burrows light. He has decent amount of skill to keep the puck in the zone whereas Hansen doesn't. I've seen Kenins keep the play alive while playing with Horvat and Hansen many times and I think he can do the same playing with the Sedins. Plus, he has decent shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You can't expect two 34 year olds to carry a team no matter the circumstances. The Canucks demise lies therein, they should have been second liners for us at this point with youth taking the reigns.Turns out our scouts were actually monkey's with typewriters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magician Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Corsi doesn't mean anything, over half of all hockey fans don't even know what it is/means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 You can't expect two 34 year olds to carry a team no matter the circumstances. The Canucks demise lies therein, they should have been second liners for us at this point with youth taking the reigns. Huh? They are carrying the team. Zetterberg is also 34, second line but Datsyuk is 36 and he's on the 1st line. They are carrying their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Did the article mention the most important stat? The one that's difficult to measure. The one where Engelland tries to rip Hanks face off behind his net, and then Hank proceeds to apologize and then picks up Engelland's stick off the ice and hands it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksfor2012 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think it's really interesting that the Flames haven't been able to score with the Sedins on the ice. True, the Sedins haven't done much scoring either, but that still shows how effective their possession game is defensively. Maybe if the Sedins stick around a couple years and can stay effective on defense through maintaining possession, and the youth develop faster than expected, there might still be a chance for them to have the fairytale run. That said, I still haven't given up on this year. We need Bonino, Vrbata and Higgins to find some of the scoring touch they had at the end of the season. We get that and a couple great performances form Miller and we're right back into this. Here's hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Huh? They are carrying the team. Zetterberg is also 34, second line but Datsyuk is 36 and he's on the 1st line. They are carrying their team. That's two 30+ players in their top six. We have five. The point isn't whether or not they can carry this team, the point is that they shouldn't be expected to. The fact that we deploy our second line as in a checking role and depend on our fourth for secondary scoring is absurd in itself. One line teams don't make it far for a reason, and neither do old cores. There's only so much the Sedins can do before they start breaking down, the past four years have depicted that in as black and white as you can paint it. Did the article mention the most important stat? The one that's difficult to measure. The one where Engelland tries to rip Hanks face off behind his net, and then Hank proceeds to apologize and then picks up Engelland's stick off the ice and hands it to him. That was Daniel I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 anyone who has watched this series can say that Corsi means dick all in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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