Canuck Surfer Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 These are pretty much the same players (other than Kassian) who couldn't get it done vs Calgary in the first round. No way Bennings and Linden stand pat with them. The fans wouldn't stand for it. No way? Its not only possible, but high % likely! Don't let the door hit you on the way out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 ^^ And that said our number one priority should be improving the D. Talent pool, size and athleticism. We have a host of candidates to make the team over the next few years. Hutton, Tryamkin, now Subban, Corrado and Clendenning in particular. But none, save Tryamkin who is prob not ready and has some questions to answer first, solve any of the current matchup issues we face. Maybe Pedan will make it? Our PMD prospects all have asterisks of some sort associated as well... We are lacking in both a big physical player and a talent player that creates opportunities. Funny. We just do not hear Lindenning talking about improving our D with any urgency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Double post (edited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Funny. We just do not hear Lindenning talking about improving our D with any urgency? Here's hoping it's nothing more than negotiation technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 No way? Its not only possible, but high % likely! Don't let the door hit you on the way out... I think it's highly likely we see new forwards as well as dmen. It's just my view that fans would be upset if we went into next season with the same group of forwards. Am I not allowed to say that? Obviously we did not get secondary scoring nor did we have enough grit vs Calgary. No way am I suggesting I would quit following the Nucks so don't be an ass about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Yeswecan Of course you're allowed to say that you think Benning will bring in other forwards. That's your opinion. It's not mine. Agree to disagree. I agree with Canuck Surfer. I think that the real priority is on D which was exposed in the Calgary series. If they bring in a UFA or make a trade, I think it will be a top 4 D-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows53 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Steal Nashville's scouting staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think it's highly likely we see new forwards as well as dmen. It's just my view that fans would be upset if we went into next season with the same group of forwards. Am I not allowed to say that? Obviously we did not get secondary scoring nor did we have enough grit vs Calgary. No way am I suggesting I would quit following the Nucks so don't be an ass about it. You said the fans would not stand for it. Its a shortsighted look IMO. We have 6 first round pick's waiting to get on the Top 6 bus who have not made the squad yet; Jensen Gaunce Shinkaruk McCann Virtanen Baertschi In addition to guys, meat and potatoes guys with some muscle at that, on our main club battling to get higher in the line up; Horvat Kassian Between Horvat, Virtanen and Kassian, I am pretty sure your beef issue on the top 6 will resolve itself soon. Add to it; Kenins Grenier Vey Cassels In reality it was our D who got abused by Calgary handling the fore-check and the pressure. Where Clendenning and Corrado, our most ready D men are less likely to offer the pedigree, or stature to equalize the physical match ups either. Up front we have solutions coming. Our defence is just that much farther off & with less answers. I suppose you are welcome to your opinion in spite of what sits in front of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 You said the fans would not stand for it. Its a shortsighted look IMO. We have 6 first round pick's waiting to get on the Top 6 bus who have not made the squad yet; Jensen Gaunce Shinkaruk McCann Virtanen Baertschi In addition to guys, meat and potatoes guys with some muscle at that, on our main club battling to get higher in the line up; Horvat Kassian Between Horvat, Virtanen and Kassian, I am pretty sure your beef issue on the top 6 will resolve itself soon. Add to it; Kenins Grenier Vey Cassels In reality it was our D who got abused by Calgary handling the fore-check and the pressure. Where Clendenning and Corrado, our most ready D men are less likely to offer the pedigree, or stature to equalize the physical match ups either. Up front we have solutions coming. Our defence is just that much farther off & with less answers. I suppose you are welcome to your opinion in spite of what sits in front of us... I agree that there is some promise in the young guys coming up. They might be the solution in the long term but I doubt that they make an immediate impact next season (isn't that what we were talking about?), enough to improve the team from the past season. There will be the necessary learning curve as these young players adapt to the NHL game. There's no question our main weakness is on defense. That was exposed by Calgary. There will certainly be upgrades back there. But I still maintain that the Canucks need to upgrade up front too, not just from within the organization, but either through trade or free agency. Only time will tell if they do.... and whether my OPINION is shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Puck. Moving. Defenceman. Weber is nice, but he's a poor man's Rome. Let's not have to depend on him. Spend the money and get someone who can think at the Sedin's level, our powerplay will start clicking again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Pedan and the longer shot Tryamkin are a physical presence on D but Pedan may be a year away. I would like to see D drafted in the first round but that player would realistically be at least 3 years before making the NHL. The PMD would presumably be traded for or a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Outside of signing one or two true top 4 defensemen and trading dead weight, Benning should concentrate on the draft and then ensuring Cole Cassels, Jake Virtanen, and Hunter Shinkaruk get a serious look with the big team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Puck. Moving. Defenceman. Weber is nice, but he's a poor man's Rome. Let's not have to depend on him. Spend the money and get someone who can think at the Sedin's level, our powerplay will start clicking again. A poor mans Rome. Kinda harsh dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 ^^ And that said our number one priority should be improving the D. Talent pool, size and athleticism. We have a host of candidates to make the team over the next few years. Hutton, Tryamkin, now Subban, Corrado and Clendenning in particular. But none, save Tryamkin who is prob not ready and has some questions to answer first, solve any of the current matchup issues we face. Maybe Pedan will make it? Our PMD prospects all have asterisks of some sort associated as well... We are lacking in both a big physical player and a talent player that creates opportunities. Funny. We just do not hear Lindenning talking about improving our D with any urgency? They know the D is old and slow. They arent stupid. It can probably hold for another year but after that we will need help. We arent getting one of the big 3 dmen in this draft so we better just go BPA and make a trade if we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 A poor mans Rome. Kinda harsh dont you think? More like out to lunch than harsh. Rome and Weber don't play ANYTHING alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 They know the D is old and slow. They arent stupid. It can probably hold for another year but after that we will need help. We arent getting one of the big 3 dmen in this draft so we better just go BPA and make a trade if we have to. What's BPA? Our D needs to get bigger and younger and faster. Corrado and Clendenning are good but won't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 More like out to lunch than harsh. Rome and Weber don't play ANYTHING alike. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 BPA = best player available (regardless of position) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Tystick I agree that the 2nd line is a concern but I think that Benning already has the players in the system who will be taking the 2C and 2LW positions when they are ready. Until then, Bonino and Higgins aren't going to let us down defensively at least. Sedin Sedin Burrows Higgins Bonino Vrbata Baertschi Horvat Hansen to be replaced by: Sedin Sedin Kassian Baertschi Horvat Vrbata Higgins Bonino Burrows at some point during the season These are pretty much the same players (other than Kassian) who couldn't get it done vs Calgary in the first round. No way Bennings and Linden stand pat with them. The fans wouldn't stand for it. No way? Its not only possible, but high % likely! Don't let the door hit you on the way out... Do you wanna rethink that? And I reiterate.... I was not suggesting I would stop following the Canucks (I've been a fan since day 1 of the team). I only meant that there would be an outcry among the fans if the Nucks returned with the same lineup that couldn't get past the first round. And there was (when there were no moves at the draft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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