Western Red Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 WD won't accept or live with mistakes made by young players. However mistakes by vets seem to be ok with him. As a result of this mentality I don't expect any more youth this year. Possibly Virtanen.I'm hoping for Virtanen and bearcheese and it's an outside possibility.No way it happens but really want Pedan here.Is Pedan injured or scratched? He hasn't played a playoff game.Also, which side does he play on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 It's not a matter of how young the team is, but of how good they are at NHL hockey. Simply put, the players that show up & give you the best chance of winning make the team. I love Willie's mantra with the Canucks of "Earned, not Given", it's exciting & gives a lot of opportunity for young guys trying to move up & experienced guys trying to stay in the game. Until Willie actually applies that (hollow) philosophy to the core vets on this team too it is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Are those 28 points in 59 games and -12 in Utica turning you on that much? Jensen needs a fast, skilled playe,that forechecks well . He needs a good centre that can feed him the puck. His name is Bo Horvat Burrows-Horvat-Jensen Would be a great line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 WD won't accept or live with mistakes made by young players. However mistakes by vets seem to be ok with him. As a result of this mentality I don't expect any more youth this year. Possibly Virtanen. I'm hoping for Virtanen and bearcheese and it's an outside possibility.No way it happens but really want Pedan here. I want him here so bad to. We definitely have something there in him. If he sent all of next year in Utica gets stronger and stays healthy would not be surprised if he gets a call-up or makes the team as a reg in 2016. Still young at 22 Edit - 21 ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven pounds soft Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Tom cruise in top gun young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Opportunity can only be rewarded if the spots are available. Again, Benning needs to clean house, I understand the 'leader' Bieksa said no to his NTC, it would suck big time if most of the veterans don't agree to being traded.This will only make our team miss out draft picks and chances to get young. So far Bieksa has given the impression that he will not be leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 As young as these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 As young as these guys Pretty sure these guys would have played more physical against the Flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Getting younger does not mean what most of these youth movement people are talking about imo. To me, it means adding one or 2 rookies a year, hopefully "core" rookies as Benning calls them (guys who will develop into core players). To my mind, "youth" means finding places in the line up (semi-permanent) for: Kassian Vey Kenins Horvat Baertschi Corrado Clendening And there is an outside chance for Virtanen and Biega Like Linden says, players need to be put in a position to succeed. If they are advanced too soon, they will never reach their potential. Development is at least as important as drafting talent and this is why they want a winning team in Utica too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't think they could have...besides Horvat ,none of the prospects looked anywhere near ready..IMO. Big part of that was because a number of the prime ones weren't available -- Shinkaruk, Cassels, McCann, Virtanen, etc. No way it happens but really want Pedan here. As long as he recovers and doesn't regress from last year, we'll see Pedan up at some point next season. He's progressed that much to where Green now expects it. And he's certainly the type of player the Canucks desperately lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Pedan, I think is in the plan for the following year (16/17) rather than next. Not to say that he won't get called up next year. I don't think there is any plan to keep Bieksa after his contract expires and Pedan is likely to replace his snarl on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes we can nucks Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 We need our own 18 year old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Pedan, I think is in the plan for the following year (16/17) rather than next. Not to say that he won't get called up next year. As mentioned, two years was Benning's original plan, but Green expects he'll be called up next season as he's progressed better and faster than expected. Likely not permanently, but we'll probably see him for some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vdbg Nate Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I say trade 2 veterans so two spots open so young guys can fight for those positions and I keep seeing sedin-sedin-kassian but I doubt kassian is top line material yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL'er Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Pretty sure these guys would have played more physical against the Flames. You sir, are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sedin-Sedin-Zygote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 This squad was perfect? Really? Then why aren't they 4-0 on their way to 16-0? And it is so stupid to argue that adding young players to the lineup means we will be the oilers. Do they have leaders like the Sedins (who are not going anywhere)? As stupid as you saying every post you make about how Kassian and Sedins are the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrissex95 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I would be okay with Richardson's spot being taken by a young guy if they are ready. Edler-Green Hamhuis-Tanev Sbisa-Stanton/Corrado/Clendening/Weber Getting a guy like Green is imperative imo. Our D will not be any better without an offensive threat there. Even better would be Edler-Green Sbisa-Tanev Hamhuis-Franson That is three balanced quality d pairs. Instant offensive weapons with no appreciable decline in defensive play. Some size too. We're not getting Green. Way too expensive. Franson, on the other hand, could be had at around 5mil per year. I'd take him around that much if we could shed cap elsewhere i.e. Alex Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutcher Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sedin, Sedin, Kassian Baer, Bonino, Vrbata Burrows, Horvat, Hansen Higgins, Richardson/UFA/Prospect, Dorsett Vey Edler, PMD Hamhuis, Tanev Sbisa, UFA/Trade/Prospect (I'd love McQuaid) Stanton, Weber/Clendening/Corrado Lack, Markstrom Kenins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutcher Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Until Willie actually applies that (hollow) philosophy to the core vets on this team too it is meaningless. your hate on for the coach is distorting your view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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