Zfetch Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 BanTSN Stamkos and Hedman are the true leaders on that team. You use deep draft picks to complement your stars, not build your core. Today, 05:40 PM thejazz97 Unless you're Detroit. Today, 05:41 PM Senpai There are different ways to build a team you know. I'm sure you could find a cup winning team with a bunch of UFAs if you looked hard enough. There is no recipe. Today, 05:43 PM BanTSN Detroit from what, 15 years ago. Today, 05:43 PM Newsflash Not always. There's no simple formula. Today, 05:45 PM Brad Marchand They won the Cup in 2008 with late-round picks Datsyuk and Zetterberg as their best forwards. Today, 05:46 PM thejazz97 Zetterberg, Franzen, Marchenko, Mrazek, Nyquist, Helm. All deep finds, with Marchenko being the most recent at 2011. Today, 05:46 PM BanTSN You'll find that the majority have those stars though. Today, 05:47 PM Senpai So what you're trying to say is, good drafting wins you championships? Well then, that's some revolutionary stuff right dere Today, 05:49 PM BanTSN Zetterberg and Datsyuk were drafted 16 years ago. Today, 05:50 PM Brad Marchand And? Today, 05:51 PM BanTSN And Babcock has been complaining about not getting stars lately. The Detroit 'formula' is dead. Today, 05:52 PM Gstank29 ^just as dead as there 24 year playoff streak right? They are starting to turnover there roster but are still remaining competitive. Today, 05:54 PM BanTSN No Senpai, i'm saying that Kucherov, Palat and Johnson are complementary pieces. That's not a rebuild. That's complementing your stars, which is still needed, but it is Stamkos and Hedman who'll matter more if Tampa goes far. Today, 05:54 PM BanTSN P.S. We're not Detroit. Today, 05:56 PM Gstank29 3 60+ point getters in their 2 second full NHL season is far from being "complementary pieces" Today, 05:57 PM BanTSN Yeah, they're good complementary pieces. P.S. I'm not against getting them. But Stamkos and Hedman are the true leaders on that team. Today, 05:58 PM Brad Marchand Watch out, we've got a Tampa Bay Lightning expert over here. Today, 05:59 PM BanTSN Stamkos and Hedman are franchise players. Those other players aren't. Knowing that does not require expert-level analysis. Today, 06:01 PM Time Lord Tampa Bay has two top lines. Most teams have one. If it wasn't for their young top line, this status wouldn't have been made. Today, 06:02 PM Time Lord Basically, you can have Stamkos and Hedman while still being a mediocre team. Today, 06:03 PM BanTSN And? Today, 06:03 PM BanTSN It's like you should complement your stars or something... Today, 06:04 PM Brad Marchand The whole underlying message of these posts is that the Canucks should deliberately tank for high draft picks. You're gonna have to convince JB and TL that this is the way to go. 58 minutes ago Gstank29 complementary player on Tampa are guys like Callahan, Sustr, Killorn ETC. Kucherov, Johnson, Palat are CORE PLAYERS 58 minutes ago BanTSN Sedins were picked 2nd and 3rd overall. True story. 57 minutes ago Newsflash "I've pretty much figured out how to build a SC winner" 55 minutes ago BanTSN It's not that hard. 54 minutes ago Brad Marchand It's so easy, I'm surprised no team has hired you as GM yet. 53 minutes ago Gstank29 ^TELL THAT TO THE OTHER 29 TEAMS THAT DON'T WIN 52 minutes ago BanTSN First off, you're not relying on undrafteds and 7th rounders to build a core. 51 minutes ago Time Lord "Sedins were picked 2nd and 3rd overall. True story." The team was bad then. The team isn't bad now. No playoff team is going to tank. 50 minutes ago BanTSN Instead, franchise players are used. I mean c'mon. 50 minutes ago Time Lord Gstank is right in every way in this staus update. 49 minutes ago Where's Wellwood ^^^ Who's doing that? 49 minutes ago Time Lord WW you can't just use the ^^^ because the comment passes quickly lol 47 minutes ago BanTSN This team was 6th last a short while ago and the core hasn't changed. Then they lost to Calgary, who pretty much sucks. That's how you delay a rebuild. 46 minutes ago BanTSN Gstanks status wasn't as popular as mine. lul 45 minutes ago Gstank29 What part of 6 1st round picks in the last 4 years says the rebuild hasn't already started? 45 minutes ago BanTSN He was right in that it's important to get those players, but first you need your true leaders, your franchise players, in place. Otherwise it's not going to work. 44 minutes ago Time Lord The team is progressively getting better. We'll have our best shot in 2017 IMO. Once the Sedins leave (in 2018) then the we might tank. 44 minutes ago BanTSN Why wait if this team is showing no life in the playoffs and they were 6th last just two years ago? 42 minutes ago Time Lord Did Boston have high picks on their roster in 2011? 42 minutes ago BanTSN We're not Boston either. 42 minutes ago Time Lord Horvat and McCann are pretty good centers. Also we'll be drafting high once the Sedins leave, it's just a few years away. 39 minutes ago Time Lord So we could be like 2011 Boston in the future 38 minutes ago BanTSN I love Horvat, but 2nd liner. Same with McCann. Franchise-level players? Um, no. 37 minutes ago Time Lord Krejci, Bergeron? 37 minutes ago BanTSN Meanwhile the Sedins were still here when we finished 6th last. 36 minutes ago Time Lord Meanwhile we finished in the top 16 this year and the team should improve for the next few seasons. 35 minutes ago BanTSN Krejci and Bergeron are better than McCann and Horvat. 35 minutes ago Brad Marchand Canucks suck too hard to win the Cup. Tank now. 34 minutes ago Time Lord ^BanTSN in a nutshell 34 minutes ago BanTSN With an aging core, the team will continue to trend downward unless other teams don't plan on improving. 33 minutes ago Brad Marchand McCann and Horvat are 20 and under yet there's no chance they'll ever be better than Bergeron and Krejci. Would sure love to be able to predict the future like that. 33 minutes ago BanTSN If it's pretty obvious what I'm saying, then I'm not sure why you 'experts' continue to deny it, even in the face of blatant failure. 32 minutes ago Time Lord Can you just say "Tank!" already? 29 minutes ago Salmonberries Good stuff Ban TSN. I agree for the most part. We`re using bubble gum and elastic bands to delay the inevitable here. Canadian franchise, you know 29 minutes ago BanTSN At age 20, Bergeron was a top line center and 70pt scorer. Horvat half that pace. And McCann screams 2nd liner to me just watching him. Krejci's natural skill was more notable at this age. 29 minutes ago Time Lord But how good were they during the 2011 season? 27 minutes ago BanTSN Real good? 24 minutes ago Time Lord Can you see Horvat putting up 50+ and McCann 60+, with good defensive play? 21 minutes ago BanTSN More concerned about playoffs. McCann doesn't quite scream Krecji-like conn smythe numbers when the heat is on. The thing is Bergeron and Krejci are both top line centers. Will Horvat and McCann both be considered top line centers? I like them, but that may be wishful thinking. 15 minutes ago BanTSN Gstank still status updating my status update. lul 10 minutes ago Time Lord I agree on that. We'll need some luck for sure, but there are drafts to come and trades to be made. I just don't think tanking is the right idea, unless your team is actually that bad. If our roster looks like a bottom 10 team's when Sedins leave, then we'll probably get a high pick. 10 minutes ago Gstank29 We need this on the front page... 7 minutes ago Zfetch Plan: •Barely miss the playoffs next year. •Win the lottery •Draft Chychrun, build team around Chychrun •Win cup 5 minutes ago · Delete BanTSN I guess I'm just confused as to where this team is at. They were 6th last with the Sedins, then they made the playoffs again with them, only to look horrible in the playoffs. So will the real Canucks please stand up? (They probably did. In the playoffs.) 4 minutes ago Time Lord IMO make a thread called BanTSN's status update and copy/paste all this stuff 3 minutes ago Gstank29 or we could get Sean Day or Dante Fabbro. Either way there are some good d-man at the top next year 3 minutes ago BanTSN Great goal by Toews. Franchise player. 3 minutes ago Time Lord Great goal by Toews. Franchise player Great goal by Stamkos. Franchise player Great goal by Tavares. Franchise player Great goal by Crosby. Franchise player Great goal by Malkin. Franchise player Great goal by Datsyuk. Franchise player Great goal by Sedin. Franchise player Great goal by McDavid. Franchise player 3 minutes ago Gstank29 Great goal by Kucherov. Complementary piece.... 2 minutes ago Time Lord LOL A minute ago BanTSN 7 out of 8 on that list were high picks, and the other guy was selected 17 years ago. And yet some people are still banking on us becoming the next Detroit? A minute ago Link to comment
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