canuktravella Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 whys tanev untouchable hes signed long term to a decent contract not sure why tanev is so overrated on here he has no offense. and what did he do in playoffs not much. At least edler is offensive in my eyes tanev and hamhuis can be traded hamhuis and tanev and vrbata miller to highest bidders higgins, hansen, richardson, mattias for picks jensen ericksonn can be packaged could get us even more pieces pilon, zacha, andersson, rantanen would be players id target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 We need Provorov, and apparantly management is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirbs11 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 whys tanev untouchable hes signed long term to a decent contract not sure why tanev is so overrated on here he has no offense. and what did he do in playoffs not much. At least edler is offensive in my eyes tanev and hamhuis can be traded hamhuis and tanev and vrbata miller to highest bidders higgins, hansen, richardson, mattias for picks jensen ericksonn can be packaged could get us even more pieces pilon, zacha, andersson, rantanen would be players id target The only reason Edler played half decent is because he had Tanev babysitting him covering up his mistakes....Tanev is our most consistent Dman we have. As an Org we dont expect Tanev to score or put up points thats not his job, he is valuable in his defensive play and consistency Take Tanev and Hamhuis out of the lineup Edler, Sbisa and Bieksa as your top 3 Dman???? any team we play scores minimum 5 goals a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The only reason Edler played half decent is because he had Tanev babysitting him covering up his mistakes....Tanev is our most consistent Dman we have. As an Org we dont expect Tanev to score or put up points thats not his job, he is valuable in his defensive play and consistency Take Tanev and Hamhuis out of the lineup Edler, Sbisa and Bieksa as your top 3 Dman???? any team we play scores minimum 5 goals a game Edler is way better than you think. You only focus on mistakes rather than all the positive things he does, which by far outweigh his occasional mistakes. He's a strong 200ft player. Tanev is more of a specialist- defensive D man that can move the puck out of the D zone quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirbs11 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Edler is way better than you think. You only focus on mistakes rather than all the positive things he does, which by far outweigh his occasional mistakes. He's a strong 200ft player. Tanev is more of a specialist- defensive D man that can move the puck out of the D zone quickly. Edler goes from being -39 in 2013-2014 to being +13 in 2014-2015 playing alongside Tanev for the full year so yes its quite obvious that with Tanev Babysitting Edler he played much beter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I'd move Virtanen straight across for on of the 7th/8th picks. It doesn't seem as though Virtanen made any huge strides this year. Not that I'm giving up on him or anything, but I think that getting a true 1/2 D prospect is more important to the team then what Virtanen brings. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm not saying it won't happen, but I don't see JB selling the farm to move up. Too pricey this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I like these ideas but I think you're over valuing Alex Edler. He's a good d man but I don't know if I'd call him top paring. I think he's a strong #3 on average who can play like a weak #1 at times. I'm not sure he's worth a #7 or #8 pick straight up, not to mention an additional pick and prospect. If we could get that kind of package for him, and have him waive his no trade, I'd dance like no one has ever danced before. Edler is definitely a top pairing defenseman. Not elite, not norris calibre, but somewhere between a fringe 1st and a solid 2nd. Edler is the complete package. Two way ability, size, a booming shot and hits like a truck. Here are defenseman who I would say are are clearly at or above Edler's level.. Karlsson Burns Subban Josi Giordano Carlson Letang Yandle Markov Faulk Doughty Pietrangelo Byfuglien Weber Keith Kronwall Ekman - Larsson Brodie Muzzin Ekblad Hedman Suter McDonagh Goligoski Seabrook Myers Chara Boychuk Hamilton Vlasic With those players ahead Edler is about 31st on the list. Myers, Goligoski, Muzzin, Vlasic, Hamilton, Boychuck, and an aging Chara are arguably around the same, which would put loosely at around 24-31 in the league. Also consider Winnipeg, Montreal, Nashville, Chicago, New York, Boston, Calgary, LA, and San Jose all have two players on the list. Edler would be a number #1 dman on Anaheim, Buffalo, Colorado, CBJ, Edmonton, New Jersey, Philly, (Vancouver), and Toronto. The only teams he would be a clear-cut second pairing would be Nashville, Chicago, New York, and Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two drink minimum Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 inb4 the critics.. I'd very much like Provorov. But not for Virtanen straight up. We'd be better off to package other players such as Jensen/2015 1st round pick/Zack Kassian. Ha, I don't think even that will be enough but it's a start. I'd jump off a tree if we get either Provorov/Rantanen.Prepare to stay put. Top ten trades almost never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't see Vancouver moving the type of assets they'd need to in order to gain one of those picks. I think you said it all, it's a deep draft, they should get a quality player at their pick without giving up assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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