PrideInThisTeam Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2015/05/31/22427806.html SYRACUSE - A man in northwest New York state died on Sunday after being shot with a stun gun by police who said he rushed at officers with a clenched fist during a confrontation, Rochester police said. Police responded on Sunday morning to reports that a man driving a red pickup truck had crashed into a car and then a church and then fled on foot, Police Chief Michael Ciminelli told a news conference. With police at the scene, the man returned and climbed into his truck, defying police orders. He then backed up, crashing into a street sign, a fence, and then drove the truck into a house. Ciminelli told reporters the man "aggressively exited the vehicle, charging in the direction of officers" with a clenched fist, and he refused to obey their verbal commands. "An officer on scene decided to use a less-than-lethal option and he used his Taser to stop the suspect," Ciminelli said. The man was briefly handcuffed afterward, but released so firefighters could provide medical attention. The man was transported to an area hospital where he was later pronounced dead. The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle newspaper, citing family members, identified the man as Richard Gregory Davis, a 50-year-old black man, who was a father of six and a former Marine. You just know how this would end up turning out if it gets enough coverage in the states...right back to square one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 what a way to go though eh driving a red pickup truck had crashed into a car and then a church and then fled on foot, With police at the scene, the man returned and climbed into his truck, defying police orders. He then backed up, crashing into a street sign, a fence, and then drove the truck into a house. the man "aggressively exited the vehicle, charging in the direction of officers" with a clenched fist, and he refused to obey their verbal commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazmanian Devil Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Clearly police brutality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We will know if people read the story or not based on their comments. Here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 PTSD --- legalize molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 sssssbl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Clearly police brutality There are idiots that will actually believe that. I would hate being a cop in the states, they can never win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 There are idiots that will actually believe that. I would hate being a cop in the states, they can never win 2 or more shots center mass is a win in my books... Man, I miss the days of CS... life was so easy bsack then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Clenched fist? They need a taser for a 50 year old unarmed guy? Back in the day cops werent bitches and would just beat the guy down with batons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Clenched fist? They need a taser for a 50 year old unarmed guy? Back in the day cops werent bitches and would just beat the guy down with batons. My exact problem with police these days (though in this case it is just an unfortunate tragedy). If an unarmed man attacks you (as a cop), that gives you the right to shoot him. How is a fist more threatening than a gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Shocking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 My exact problem with police these days (though in this case it is just an unfortunate tragedy). If an unarmed man attacks you (as a cop), that gives you the right to shoot him. How is a fist more threatening than a gun? So every cop should diffuse a situation by hand to hand combat? What if he has a knife? Stop treating criminals as victims. Police need to protect themselves too. Here's a little tip I use to prevent being tazed, don't run at police in a threatening manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 So every cop should diffuse a situation by hand to hand combat? What if he has a knife? Stop treating criminals as victims. Police need to protect themselves too. Here's a little tip I use to prevent being tazed, don't run at police in a threatening manner. Fair enough, but if you're going to shoot the guy, aim lower, around his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Fair enough, but if you're going to shoot the guy, aim lower, around his legs. And get punched in the face when your taser misses the skinny moving objects? Good idea! Real life is not movies, cops do not shoot tasters or guns at legs that are constantly moving. They shoot the biggest target that doesn't move nearly as much, which is your torso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 PTSD --- legalize molly I'd be curious about more of his history (besides him being a former marine). Did he have previous criminal activity or was this isolated? If he was a life long criminal or someone with an open warrant, then maybe he flipped. We don't even know what he saw for action for if he had PTSD. Having said that, the way this went down I'd suggest mental illness of some sort played a part. Just a strange, strange situation. Fair enough, but if you're going to shoot the guy, aim lower, around his legs. You do realize what a stun gun is, right? If they were using a hand gun, then sure, try and disable him first, but why would they use a hand gun on an unarmed man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 but why would they use a hand gun on an unarmed man? haha oh boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 For those who didn't read the article... He crashed his car into another car then a church and fled the scene leaving his vehicle. He then returned for his vehicle and ignored police orders getting back into his vehicle and endangering more lives by crashing into a sign, fence, and then into someones home. Then to top it off he got out of the truck and charged at the officers. After all of that the cops still opted to use what is normally a non lethan method to take him down. How in the hell does anyone not side with the cops on this? If anything they should have used more force sooner and prevented him from causing even more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 haha oh boy Should I have said, "why would a good cop?" to help clarify considering other news this past little while? I hoped people would get the point this isn't a bad cop situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'd be curious about more of his history (besides him being a former marine). Did he have previous criminal activity or was this isolated? If he was a life long criminal or someone with an open warrant, then maybe he flipped. We don't even know what he saw for action for if he had PTSD. Having said that, the way this went down I'd suggest mental illness of some sort played a part. Just a strange, strange situation. You do realize what a stun gun is, right? If they were using a hand gun, then sure, try and disable him first, but why would they use a hand gun on an unarmed man? Of course I do, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about cops who use a hand gun, a weapon that fires metal faster than sound, at an unarmed man. As I stated, the case OP is talking about is an unfortunate tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I side with police in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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