Stormriders Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Vey will not work out, he was an ill advised trade Benning made in the transition. What he does not have is speed not any physical presence or intensiveness. Regardless of what he does this summer, he is not going to get bigger or stronger. One of the biggest nocks I have on him is his lack of intensity. I know that Tyler Johnson is having a breakout year, but that whole line has skill, PLUS speed and intensity. He is great on the boards, face-offs etc. And he is smaller than Vey. Look at some of the other smaller player around the league and compare them to Vey. He just doesn't have it. Yes he has some skill, ... but when I see some of the other players like him, they drive the play, they are intense. He will likely be the 13th forward this year and traded or ?? the next. At 24 next month this may be his peak. And listed at 6'0" and 180 lbs., he looks and plays like one of the smallest players in the NHL. Lets compare him to the other guy we traded a 2nd for this year, Sven. No comparison. He is FAST, he is DYNAMIC, he is intense and dangerous. Yes he might be a little soft like Vey, but SO MUCH more potential. I just don't see the same potential in Vey, Yes this all sounds so negative, .... but it is what it is. Love to have him prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Toews(Horvat) Kane(Shinkaruk) and Krejci(Vey) are all here? Dynasty time. Towews-Lite, Kane-Lite, and Krejci-Lte. so a Dynasty-Lite which means Canucks will still get one Cup at least. I am ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I hope he takes the necessary steps next season to be successful. I remember an interview with WD after the trade, from which he said Vey is the kind of guy that wants to be the best, and works to get there. He might not have the talent, but he'll put the work in. If he makes a significant jump in his production, he could be a real asset for us as a right handed centre. Even then, would we use him as a centre? He doesn't seem to bring much to the faceoff dot. He's an enigma as far as I'm concerned. He could be a top 6 forward, with steady year to year development, or he might just be a centre that can't take draws, isn't known for defence, and doesn't provide high enough scoring to warrant a place in the top 6. I hope he chooses a development path and gets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzy Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 8pts in his last 38 games. Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Linden Vey, at the very least, is an NHL player. He may very well develop into a second line center. When was the last time the Canucks had success with a 2nd round pick? Anton Rodin? Taylor Ellington? Yann Sauve? Playing the percentages,this was a good pick. 2nd line center? he has his work cut out for him as we have Bones,Horvat now and McCann, Cassels waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Considering he was a rookie, coming into a new team that was coming off a horrendous season, which then suffered multiple injuries to key players, I would say Linden Vey and his ultra competitive style helped us to the playoffs. He is a proven goal scorer in the AHL where he racked up some serious points totals despite being a 4th round pick. He strikes me as a possible "Burrows type" player who will improve as he gets older under the kind of coaching Willie specialises in. One thing screams out from his stats and that is that for whatever reason his shot percentage has dropped by 40-50% compared to his AHL career. This may have something to do with the role he is being asked to play but if he gets that stat up again to near where it was I'm sure the goals will follow. If he had been "our" 4th round pick we would be drooling all over Vey. The fact that he was the result of a trade seems to diminish his value in the eyes of the less enlightened on here. I really like Vey's game and he is one of the players who I look forward to watching next season. Hopefully he will put on a few lbs of muscle which would surely benefit his further development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Then the return for Garrison was downright awful. Does everyone forget how downright awful Garrison was? So we sold him low. You win some, You lose some. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 In a way he reminds me of Aaron Rome. A coach favourite who was played too much considering his capabilities at the time. Well on an opposite scale as AV played Rome more and more as the season and playoffs went along. At least WD played Vey less and less. I agree with the OP though, he does seem to have a hate storm on his arse that is not fair just because the coach plays him out of position. Hopefully Vey trains hard this summer on strength and his defensive skills and rounds out his game. If not I don't see much of a future for him in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Considering he was a rookie, coming into a new team that was coming off a horrendous season, which then suffered multiple injuries to key players, I would say Linden Vey and his ultra competitive style helped us to the playoffs. He is a proven goal scorer in the AHL where he racked up some serious points totals despite being a 4th round pick. He strikes me as a possible "Burrows type" player who will improve as he gets older under the kind of coaching Willie specialises in. One thing screams out from his stats and that is that for whatever reason his shot percentage has dropped by 40-50% compared to his AHL career. This may have something to do with the role he is being asked to play but if he gets that stat up again to near where it was I'm sure the goals will follow. If he had been "our" 4th round pick we would be drooling all over Vey. The fact that he was the result of a trade seems to diminish his value in the eyes of the less enlightened on here. I really like Vey's game and he is one of the players who I look forward to watching next season. Hopefully he will put on a few lbs of muscle which would surely benefit his further development. Considering he was a rookie, coming into a new team that was coming off a horrendous season, which then suffered multiple injuries to key players, I would say Linden Vey and his ultra competitive style helped us to the playoffs. He is a proven goal scorer in the AHL where he racked up some serious points totals despite being a 4th round pick. He strikes me as a possible "Burrows type" player who will improve as he gets older under the kind of coaching Willie specialises in. One thing screams out from his stats and that is that for whatever reason his shot percentage has dropped by 40-50% compared to his AHL career. This may have something to do with the role he is being asked to play but if he gets that stat up again to near where it was I'm sure the goals will follow. If he had been "our" 4th round pick we would be drooling all over Vey. The fact that he was the result of a trade seems to diminish his value in the eyes of the less enlightened on here. I really like Vey's game and he is one of the players who I look forward to watching next season. Hopefully he will put on a few lbs of muscle which would surely benefit his further development. When the trade was made I did not like his size as I thought the Canucks have to get much bigger. On the positive side he has decent speed and is a great puck handler. Pretty decent puck retrieval as well. There will always be a place for play makers like Vey. As suggested what he does this summer to strengthen will make a big dif this fall. His rookie season was pretty solid but I thought he faded a little in the spring. Referring to Vey as a 2nd round pick carries many different connotations. His production at the AHL level raised his value in the same way that fans get excited about the current Utica crop. People have to appreciate that the jump from AHL to NHL is not a given. Good players will find ways to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 If we kept the second round pick, signed Schroeder to Vey's contract, and brought in Santorelli instead we would have been far better off both in the present and future. That said, hindsight is 20-20. I thought Vey would be far better than he was. Schroeder >>> Vey last season. Points per game wise they are similar, but Schroeder got around 8 points in 16 games while on the third line, and the team was far better with him on the ice. Also his +9 and possession stats are sparkling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I don't know why it has to be considered "hate" when talking about Vey. Concerns that he might not be what this team needs or a redundancy is not hate, it's just observation and opinion. Now if someone lies and tries to convince others he has drug problems and behavioral issues, then that would be hate. The other thing is those that bring up that we need to get younger and still call out Vey. Getting younger is more than a number. We need to get bigger, younger and faster. One out of three is not enough. That said, if Vey turns his game into something indispensable I wouldn't complain but as of now we already have players in development that could fill the holes we are filling with him. There are other players on the team I will be patient as stone about but I wouldn't even notice if Vey was gone at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire_Spiky Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The problem with Vey is her just doesn't have the right mix of tools to become an NHL regular. He has decent hockey sense and can make decent plays but he seriously lacks size and grit. He played last season mostly in the bottom six and saw some power play time. While he excelled on the power play because of his vision on the ice he lacks finish which hurts his 5v5 play and drops him out of the Top 6(Lets be honest hes behind at least 3 centers on this team. That leaves the bottom 6 and he simply does not have the size or defensive skills to be an effective bottom six forward. He just has the wrong mix a skills, if he had finish his small size wouldn't matter in the top 6 and if he had size he could easily play in the bottom 6. He has neither and therefor no place on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 He did make some improvements to the defensive aspect of his game last season and we just might need him next year. That being said, hopefully he continues to develop as McCann and Cassels come up, then we can trade him for a 2nd round pick in 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedlee Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The "hate" is because a lot of people (me included) never liked the trade in the first place. Why are we trading for another small/soft player? I would have prefered Sestito in the Lineup or spending that 2nd more effective. His stats may be good/ok for a rookie season but his advanced stats arent that good.. and faceoffs are brutal but he made some defensive progress at the end of the season though. I don't understand this trade for Vey. When Benning took over he said he was going to build a team that can compete with the "big, heavy" teams out west. Then he gives up a 2 round pick for Vey, a small and soft player. And....when the trade was made he declared Vey his 3rd line centre! I'll bet Benning wants a do over on that one. Maybe his worst move as a GM so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiboynux4lifee******* Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 he wasn't as bad as some of you guys make it seem. Like oh noo vey is so bad !!!!! come on guys be reasonable. Linden Vey positives - great passing - decent shot - hockey iq, last year he made many slick plays but his line mates never finshed. Negatives - speed - size gets knocked off the puck too fast during cycling (could be improved) - defensive awareness - faceoffs (stop playing him as a center Willie) So yes the tools are there he just needs to improve on some aspects of his game. I wouldn't throw the towel in yet on Vey. The reason people hate him so much is because Willie D kept playing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Not sure why we even have a Vey appreciation thread. Not much to appreciate so far, but time will tell if he was worth a second rounder. Not a convincing yes so far, but only a small sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I like him and will be patient with him because cognitive dissonance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 You bring up his high shooting percentage like it's a good thing. Having a super high shooting percentage almost always is an indication of a player who's having a season that they aren't going to be able to match the following year because they aren't going to be able to maintain that type of puck luck for a long period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 With a lot of luck he could turn into a Santorelli. Not likely but I can dream. Still cannot believe that we let Santo go last summer. He was sooooo good before his injury... I'd take him over Higgins or Hansen any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronning4center Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I like Vey, raw around the edges but I like what he brings now and hopefully in the future. Youth movement only applies if it's Mckeown, apparently. Well,,, Mckeown is an inch taller and ten pounds heavier at 19. You can add another ten or fifteen pounds in 4 years...so now your have Vey at 23 yo and 6' 185 to Mckeown at 23 6'1 210 lbs Thats everything in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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