Webster6 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Oh my lord Turkey... Denying the Armenian genocide, and now are likely assisting a terrorist organization. Yikes. How are they in NATO? http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/06/12/415486/Turkey-Syria-ISIL-National-Intelligence-Organization-MT-Cumhuriyet-Selahattin Newly-surfaced video footage has corroborated widespread assertions that the Turkish government's intelligence agency has been ensuring ISIL terrorists safe passage into Syria. Here's more sources: https://www.google.ca/search?q=Turkish+intelligence+agency+giving+ISIL+safe+passage+into+Syria&oq=Turkish+intelligence+agency+giving+ISIL+safe+passage+into+Syria&aqs=chrome..69i57.1110j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8#q=Turkish+intelligence+agency+ISIL+syria&tbm=nws I wonder what happened to this pledge from the end of last year..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 How are they in NATO? Easy. They're trained by the CIA, and it's easier to do that in a NATO country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 For being part of intelligence, it wasn't a very intelligent thing to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 This isn't news. Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and some other countries have been helping and supplying ISIS from day 1. Pretty much common knowledge if you follow International news / geo politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 This isn't news. Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and some other countries have been helping and supplying ISIS from day 1. Pretty much common knowledge if you follow International news / geo politics. Assertions of those behavior by Turkey are not news. Solid evidence supporting the claim have been limited. Good attempt at being a gatekeeper of discussion though. Always gotta 1up with a few dismissing sentences, instead of adding something to the discussion. This is news as it's new evidence supporting a previous claim. You say Turkey has been helping from day 1 well then show some evidence to substantiate your claim instead of spouting rhetoric like a Fox News know it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Assertions of those behavior by Turkey are not news. Solid evidence supporting the claim have been limited. Good attempt at being a gatekeeper of discussion though. Always gotta 1up with a few dismissing sentences, instead of adding something to the discussion. This is news as it's new evidence supporting a previous claim. You say Turkey has been helping from day 1 well then show some evidence to substantiate your claim instead of spouting rhetoric like a Fox News know it all. Wow, seems like i touched a nerve. Didn't mean to dis your thread, was just stating the fact that this is and has been common knowledge for a long time. Evidence? You don't remember Joe Biden apologizing to Erdogan and UAE last year after making public remarks that suggested Turkey, UAE and other Arab states were helping ISIS, Nusra Front etc.? They were pretty angry at Biden's comments so he had to apologize and "clarify" his remarks. It was on every international news channel and website. What just happened in Yemen ? As soon as SA led alliance starts bombing the Houthis ISIS shows up as a ground force against the Houthis. ISIS is a Sunni State sponsored proxy. Just like Hezbollah is backed by Shia. Other than sports all I really watch and follow is International news and politics. Not into the local news or national news in Canada. Maybe common knowledge to me is not so common to everyone I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armada Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 What a bunch of turkeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Wow, seems like i touched a nerve. Didn't mean to dis your thread, was just stating the fact that this is and has been common knowledge for a long time. Evidence? You don't remember Joe Biden apologizing to Erdogan and UAE last year after making public remarks that suggested Turkey, UAE and other Arab states were helping ISIS, Nusra Front etc.? They were pretty angry at Biden's comments so he had to apologize and "clarify" his remarks. It was on every international news channel and website. What just happened in Yemen ? As soon as SA led alliance starts bombing the Houthis ISIS shows up as a ground force against the Houthis. ISIS is a Sunni State sponsored proxy. Just like Hezbollah is backed by Shia. Other than sports all I really watch and follow is International news and politics. Not into the local news or national news in Canada. Maybe common knowledge to me is not so common to everyone I guess. Kinda struck a nerve ya. I just hate when discussion is dismantled by a pair condescending sentences. I likewise to you, only really care to pay attention to global current events and scientific advancements, on top of sport. Instead of wasting my time with over produced, under planned television programming. I'm always looking to discuss arising topics and finding the pieces to the puzzle that I've missed so I can disseminate the reality I exist in better. Sorry for being rude and calling you a know it all, I just wanna trade thoughts/ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 So the US trained ISIL in Jordan, then US ally Turkey gave them safe passage to attack and terrorize Syria. Yeah Erdogan is a devil but look who is pulling his strings. Same old devil causing such pain and suffering throughout the Middle East. It's interesting how well the daily propaganda on the TV or in the newspaper works on so many people who catch the headlines and say something about how nasty ISIL is without seeing who is behind this new monster. Related, an Israeli news source today reported on discussions between Israel and Syrian 'rebels' meeting to discuss their fight against Hezbollah and Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 So the US trained ISIL in Jordan, then US ally Turkey gave them safe passage to attack and terrorize Syria. Yeah Erdogan is a devil but look who is pulling his strings. Same old devil causing such pain and suffering throughout the Middle East. It's interesting how well the daily propaganda on the TV or in the newspaper works on so many people who catch the headlines and say something about how nasty ISIL is without seeing who is behind this new monster. Related, an Israeli news source today reported on discussions between Israel and Syrian 'rebels' meeting to discuss their fight against Hezbollah and Iran. My enemies enemy is my friend until he becomes my other enemies friend becoming my enemy,then my old enemy becomes my new friend helping me to fight my new enemy who was my old friend whose friend has now become my enemy whose enemy is now my friend..................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastVanCanuck Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sectarian violence running its course. Shiite vs Sunni. Been discussed for the past five years. This is old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The fact ISIS is about 5 minutes from their border and they've done nothing to help tells you all you need to know. In fact they've hampered the Kurds in taking Kobani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster6 Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sectarian violence running its course. Shiite vs Sunni. Been discussed for the past five years. This is old news. ISIS hasn't even been well renown for the last 5 years, let alone have Turkish officials been accused, and then proven: to be assisting their movement. A lot of past accusations have been speculation based on questionable sources. Video is generally damning evidence. Why is everyone yawning and saying boring old news when this story is at the very least clear proof that an entire agency is assisting ISIL. Most of the stories or assertions in the past are based on speculation, or are from morally/ethically bankrupt sources (*cough* Joe Biden *cough*). I've provided clear cut evidence to the table of discussion and was just looking to start a talk attempting to expand on the armchair investigation by sharing the forums cumulative knowledge on the Middle Eastern geopolitics, and ongoing conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The middle east is looking like a much more viable place lately to accidentally release a super virus "Oops sorry about dropping in the weaponized small pox, we'll be back after the problem sorts itself out" They don't care about stopping any of the issues going on there and I think that's plainly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 The middle east is looking like a much more viable place lately to accidentally release a super virus "Oops sorry about dropping in the weaponized small pox, we'll be back after the problem sorts itself out" They don't care about stopping any of the issues going on there and I think that's plainly obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually smallpox that they used... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually smallpox that they used... Australian news reported earlier that ISIS has enough fissionable material to make a dirty bomb. I joke about a lot of terrible things. But honestly, a massive plague/sickness is about the only thing that is going to solve a lot of problems on this planet because there are FAR to many stupid people about doing stupid things. A nice Tube Neck Stephen Kings the Stand type plague in that part of the world will correct things in a damned hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Australian news reported earlier that ISIS has enough fissionable material to make a dirty bomb. I joke about a lot of terrible things. But honestly, a massive plague/sickness is about the only thing that is going to solve a lot of problems on this planet because there are FAR to many stupid people about doing stupid things. A nice Tube Neck Stephen Kings the Stand type plague in that part of the world will correct things in a damned hurry I wouldn't be surprised if a new strain of smallpox roared back over the whole planet... Question: what if only the stupid people survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if a new strain of smallpox roared back over the whole planet... Question: what if only the stupid people survive? It's inevitable they will. But....that being said. There will be pockets of Nirvana where people of sound mind will work together. Sadly, there will also be those areas where idiots think marrying your underaged cousin is ok and it was all gods fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offensive Threat Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I get the feeling that at the end of the Ottoman Empire they maybe shoulda kept all of the middle east as one state. Might have been the way to go back in the day....itd still be a mess, maybe worse. That place sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sectarian violence running its course. Shiite vs Sunni. Been discussed for the past five years. This is old news. This sectarianism never existed until recently. It's a farce, a created division by western regimes to split up and control the resources and labour of the Middle East. Same between Sunnis and Christians. I encourage people to read about how the US created sectarianism in Iraq following their invasion and massacre after 03. It's disgusting, but people should not be surprised, colonialism which most people have read about is the same strategy. To simplify, divide and conquer. But people in the Middle East hate the west because of freedom, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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