-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 @TimWharnsby #Habs D Nathan Beaulieu has signed a 2yr, $1-M per season extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Isn't Beaulieu like a good prospect or something or other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Good contract for a young player who can already help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Isn't Beaulieu like a good prospect or something or other? Hockey's Future is the best place to find information on young prospects. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nathan_beaulieu/ Projection is that he will become a top-three defenseman in the NHL within the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Good deal for the Habs. Too bad the same can't be said about the other contract they handed out recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 That is a stunning deal for the Habs. He'll get a make-up contract next time but this now gives the Habs some freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the cycle Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hockey's Future is the best place to find information on young prospects.http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nathan_beaulieu/ Projection is that he will become a top-three defenseman in the NHL within the next few years. HF isn't very good. Take everything they put out with a grain of salt. They said Tanev was a 6.5C and is now a #2 defenceman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 HF isn't very good. Take everything they put out with a grain of salt. They said Tanev was a 6.5C and is now a #2 defenceman. Beaulieu will be good but I agree with this. They bumped Cassels up from a 7.0C to a 7.5C and has Virtanen at an 8.0D and Shinkaruk at 7.5D or something like that. Completely inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Beaulieu will be good but I agree with this. They bumped Cassels up from a 7.0C to a 7.5C and has Virtanen at an 8.0D and Shinkaruk at 7.5D or something like that. Completely inaccurate. Except they could still easily be accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedkid666 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Nothing to complain about here. Nice little bridge deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 An obvious sign and trade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Beaulieu will be good but I agree with this. They bumped Cassels up from a 7.0C to a 7.5C and has Virtanen at an 8.0D and Shinkaruk at 7.5D or something like that. Completely inaccurate. Most comments I see on CDC would agree with this-that Hockeysfuture's rankings are poor. I actually think they aren't bad. Virtanen's 8.0 means that in the eyes of Hockeysfuture he has a ceiling of a first line forward. Most on CDC would agree with that, though most comments I've noticed on CDC project him as probably 2nd line. The D from Hockeysfuture indicates that he has a chance to reach that ceiling but is unlikely to do and could drop as low as a floor of 4th line forward. That one might be slightly harsh, but doesn't seem way out of line to me. Virtanen has excellent skating, shot and strength and plays physically while quite a few question his decision making. I'm not here to express an opinion on Virtanen or anyone else, but certainly tlhe arguments I see about him mean that many on CDC also would rate Virtanen's chances of reaching his ceiling as unlikely. Pears also mentioned Cassels being raised from 7C to 7.5C. That means they've raised his ceiling from 2nd line to somewhere in the top 6-that is, 1st or 2nd line tweener. Their C means he could fall a couple of ranks-essentially to a bottom 6 forward. Can anyone really say that Cassels upside is higher than top 6 that or that his floor is higher than bottom 6? That doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all. Shinkaruk's 7.5D seems just about right on to me. They're giving him a ceiling of 1st/2nd line tweener-that is, 1st or 2nd line, top 6. They're saying his floor could be as low as somewhere between 4th line and callup, or what I'd call a marginal NHL player. We see a lot of arguments on CDC about Shinkaruk and those arguments would seem to me to support that grading. Some say he could become a top 6 forward-that supports his ceiling. Some argue based on his lack of scoring since drafted that he's in danger of falling a long way from the potential seen in him when drafted, some saying on the Shinkaruk thread that he needs to start scoring soon. That questioning seems to support his floor being quite a bit lower than his ceiling. All such rankings are subjective so many will have different opinions, so you'll get different opinions about players and obvious there will be some who are outside the upside or downside that hockeysfuture gives. Hockeysfuture seems to me to do a reasonable job of estimating upside potential while taking into account how much development is needed to reach that potential. People shouldn't be put off by seeing a C or a D, since that is just an indication of the difference between the player's potential ceiling and floor. We'd much rather have prospects with 8D or 7.5D (top 6 but could drop as low as 4th round) than a 5A (almost certainly a career 4th liner in the opinion of Hockeysfuture.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 @tyhee That's an interesting piece you wrote and for the most part I agree especially on the Shink part. I remember when so many on cdc blasted Calgary for passing on the "sure fire home town boy" Shink and taking Poirier and thus far Poirier has been the far better prospect. But the Virtanen rank I'm not sure is very accurate, at least in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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