Popinjay Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 This article was published in 2005: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=johnson/060417_blackhawks Blackhawks have won three cups since, and could realistically win another 3 more Up until 2007 Blackhawks homegames were not even televised. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 We're just a Kane and a Toews away ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 We're just a Kane and a Toews away ... Bah, they're a dime a dozen. I'm sure we'll have our own soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 We're just a Kane and a Toews away ... ..and Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Good drafting and development AND having patience is the key to success. It's great to have a Kane and Toews but Chicago would be nowhere without their supporting cast. Keith was drafted in 2002, Seabrook was drafted in 2003 and they waited for them to develop. The 2015 Blackhawks team had one player that they drafted in every draft from 2002-2012 (except for 2008). The 2008 draft still contributed because they traded Ben Smith (2008 pick) for Andrew Dejardins who turned out to be a pretty good fourth liner in their cup run. That's what you call good drafting and development. Good drafting isn't about tanking and taking the highest rank player (e.g. Crosby, Kane, Stamkos, Tavares, etc.). It's about drafting well outside of the top picks. After you find the guy you have to give them time to develop. Most players don't come out of the draft as top NHL players. The Blackhawks know this and that's why they are able to have a good team in the salary cap world year after year. They can afford signing a top free agent in Hossa because they know that they'll have young guys on their ELC's stepping up to play key roles on the team. Mike Gillis gets a lot of hate around here but he had two decent drafts in 2011 and 2012 and ended his career with the Canucks with a really strong 2013 draft. Those players along with our 2014 and 2015 picks will be the key to the Canucks retool. They might not all be stepping into the NHL this season (or even next season). But in 3-4 years time our young guys in addition to our current core will be able to do some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I know the team is laden with star talent, but coaching really made an impact in Chicago. Joel Quenneville collected a ton of experience coaching star players in Colorado and St. Louis, having been involved with guys like Sakic, Roy and Pronger just to name a few. If you look at Quenneville's St. Louis teams and his Colorado teams, he coached an effective style, but didn't quite have the roster that he has now. I think it's the perfect combination of a team that has the talent and leadership to succeed meshed with a coach who knows how to motivate his players to play hard in big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Do not discount the Toews effect. The guy is the best leader the NHL has seen since Stevie Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popinjay Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 We're just a Kane and a Toews away ... ..and Keith. Keith was drafted 54th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popinjay Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 We're just a Kane and a Toews away ... You're missing the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The only thing the Canucks need to do is outscore the opponent in more games next year. Then once the playoffs start they just need to beat each opposing team 4 times only. Come on, lets not complicate things here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popinjay Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 The only thing the Canucks need to do is outscore the opponent in more games next year. Then once the playoffs start they just need to beat each opposing team 4 times only. Come on, lets not complicate things here... It's so easy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 ..and Keith. You mean a number one dman. I'd preferably not have someone like Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltt Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It's so easy, right? Definetely. If I was running that team we'd be swimming in stanley cup trophies.... I'm not 100% sure what that means but we'd be #1. I would have drafted Shea Weber, Kopitar, Kassian, Benn, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Definetely. If I was running that team we'd be swimming in stanley cup trophies.... I'm not 100% sure what that means but we'd be #1. I would have drafted Shea Weber, Kopitar, Kassian, Benn, etc... I thought Kopitar was a slam dunk for the Canucks in 2005. The Kings were shocked as hell when the Canucks didn't take him. Nothing against Bourdon (RIP), but even back then my friends and I all agreed that Kopitar was the sleeper pick in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You're missing the point No, I get the point, I was being glib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popinjay Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 No, I get the point, I was being glib. Oh, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Oh, sorry That's the first time I've ever been sincerely apologized to on CDC the internet. I....I don't know what to say ... Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC20.0 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I thought Kopitar was a slam dunk for the Canucks in 2005. The Kings were shocked as hell when the Canucks didn't take him. Nothing against Bourdon (RIP), but even back then my friends and I all agreed that Kopitar was the sleeper pick in the 1st round. Yeah, it surprised everybody. Hindsight's 20/20 though. The Canucks already had Kes and the Twins developing at the time, and we needed a D man badly, and Luc Bourdon had the makings of something this team has never had. A #1 Dman. A franchise Dman even. Such a tragedy. The Kid nearly made it at 18, and then was starting to turn into something really special. One of the best prospects the Canucks ever had, especially for defense. I think if Luc hadn't died, everybody else would be singing a different tune on the Kopitar thing. RIP Bourdon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass_Solo Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I thought Kopitar was a slam dunk for the Canucks in 2005. The Kings were shocked as hell when the Canucks didn't take him. Nothing against Bourdon (RIP), but even back then my friends and I all agreed that Kopitar was the sleeper pick in the 1st round. Bourdon would likely have been the defenceman everybody is crying for right now. I'd take that over Kopitar if given a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This article was published in 2005: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=johnson/060417_blackhawks Blackhawks have won three cups since, and could realistically win another 3 more Up until 2007 Blackhawks homegames were not even televised. Food for thought. I don't know how you can call that a fast turnaround. Chicago's ineptitude of a decade ago rivals Edmonton right now. They were abysmal for ages. I guess it just shows how short the memories of hockey fans are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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